Lawn grass question

[Core Shot]

yall waste water to grow grass ya dont smoke and need to maintain
why is my question
xeri

Yup

If I lived near xeri land. I would xeriscape
Wayyyy easier
And more better for Mother Earth.

[dtown]

Power rack every 2 years and aerate every year went a long way when I had a manageable lawn. Now I have 3+ acres of “lawn” and I don’t bother with any of that shit.


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[AK47bp]

Place is slipping.

https://youtu.be/Q-TzNdhLtZ0


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

Within 20 minutes is now


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Tell your mom that. She’s expecting you to get off your ass and contribute. Are you paying rent? Did your dad just buy you a Bronco Sport?


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[billyk]

Referring back to the original post, I’d say just go with the St Augustine. It is really a nice lawn to have, as long as you are in an area where it grows. Since some of your neighbors have it, it looks like you are.

I have St Augustine in the front yard, and a god awful mix of weeds, Bermuda, and a multitude of different seeded grasses in the back. The St Augustine looks and feels good and is pretty low maintenance. Seems to handle drought at least as well as the crap in the back, and recovers well if I let it go too long between waterings.

The neighbors across the street just let their yard go au natural, and I’m sure they look down at us for wasting water on our lawn, but we really don’t water all that much - just enough to keep the lawn alive in the late summer, which is once or twice a week. We do mow at the highest setting.

If I weren’t so cheap and lazy, I’d have the back sodded as well.

[AK47bp]

Tell your mom that. She’s expecting you to get off your ass and contribute. Are you paying rent? Did your dad just buy you a Bronco Sport?


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Ha.

Your gonna get him grounded.


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[stealurface831]

Tell your mom that. She’s expecting you to get off your ass and contribute. Are you paying rent? Did your dad just buy you a Bronco Sport?


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the thing is, when my mom "tells me to mow the lawn" it is more of a "do you think you can mow the lawn today" without actually telling me when she wants it done. and she only really does this when it comes to mowing the lawn. she'll just tell me to wash the dishes, clean her car, take my sister to the barn, etc and i'll do it when she asks. but the way she poses the lawn questions leave it very much open to interpretation when it is to be done.
and we are splitting monthly payments down the middle on the car.

[chaka]

We're going tree hugger lawn in the fall. Going to solarize/kill off the poor excuse for grass now, then till it, then till in some non-porous ceramic soil amendment to fix the clay, then seed with this stuff early Fall. Make the bees happy I say. Less water, no fertilizer, grows in nice, can mow or not. Why fight the clover? Clover is great if you ask me. Funny history.. Clover lawns were apparently all the rage pre-WWII. During WWII big companies made a lot of ammonium nitrate and other nice chemicals for bombs. Then after the war, they needed to create a market to use their products, so started lobbying, marketing what we know as 'typical' lawns today, which consume a ginormous amount of fertilizer.
PT 755 Fleur de Lawn

[ötzi]

If it's something like "could you help me get this rabid ferret off my neck?" I think "now" would be appropriate. For cutting the grass it's a little much to expect he drop his phone and run to the shed.

Mom's behavior smacks of more going on. Maybe she's mad at steal, at his Dad, at life...something is bothering her. I say brew mom a nice cup of chamomile tea and sit her down for a chat.

[stealurface831]

If it's something like "could you help me get this rabid ferret off my neck?" I think "now" would be appropriate. For cutting the grass it's a little much to expect he drop his phone and run to the shed.

Mom's behavior smacks of more going on. Maybe she's mad at steal, at his Dad, at life...something is bothering her. I say brew mom a nice cup of chamomile tea and sit her down for a chat.

i think she just likes mowing the lawn.

[abraham]

We're going tree hugger lawn in the fall. Going to solarize/kill off the poor excuse for grass now, then till it, then till in some non-porous ceramic soil amendment to fix the clay, then seed with this stuff early Fall. Make the bees happy I say. Less water, no fertilizer, grows in nice, can mow or not. Why fight the clover? Clover is great if you ask me. Funny history.. Clover lawns were apparently all the rage pre-WWII. During WWII big companies made a lot of ammonium nitrate and other nice chemicals for bombs. Then after the war, they needed to create a market to use their products, so started lobbying, marketing what we know as 'typical' lawns today, which consume a ginormous amount of fertilizer.
PT 755 Fleur de Lawn

Cool site, when are you ordering? Some of those look like good options to cover some newly free space I uncovered this spring.

[chaka]

Cool site, when are you ordering? Some of those look like good options to cover some newly free space I uncovered this spring.

By my math, I need a 10 lb bag of seed for our sq ft. I should order soon. how much do you need?

[gravitylover]

yall waste water to grow grass ya dont smoke and need to maintain
why is my question
xeri

I won't water the yard. If it grows great, if it doesn't it didn't belong anyway. My food and flower gardens get some H2O added. Lawns are silly.

i think she just likes mowing the lawn.

Nobody actually likes mowing the lawn.

I have green stuff that looks like a lawn from 50 feet at 25mph. Looks like being the key. I havent seeded, haven't fertilized and never water and it really doesn't look bad IMO. The backyard has gone native after 25 years of minimal maintenance (neglect?) and it's lush. This year I've actually cleaned it a lot and built wildflower beds that will be filled with butterfly drawing flowers.

[t-the-east]

went and bought a de thatching rake, and it only took 10 days to do the whole front yard
.

10 days!?

[JimmyCarter]

she'll just tell me to wash the dishes, clean her car, take my sister to the barn, .

Wait wut??

[Mazderati]

His sister is a horse?

[Bunion 2020]

Nobody actually likes mowing the lawn.

I beg to differ, my neighbor lives for that shit.

[Buster Highmen]

Do the rich or wealthy mow their own lawns?

[Core Shot]

Do the rich or wealthy mow their own lawns?

Heh
That’s me. Mowing my lawn.

The neighbors say “hmm he must have money troubles. Why would he mow his own lawn?”

Fortunately my son now mows the lawn.
I can explain how I’m teaching him responsibilities and work ethic. And not just being cheap.

[stealurface831]

His sister is a horse?

Wait wut??

she rides em

[liv2ski]

We're going tree hugger lawn in the fall. Going to solarize/kill off the poor excuse for grass now, then till it, then till in some non-porous ceramic soil amendment to fix the clay, then seed with this stuff early Fall. Make the bees happy I say. Less water, no fertilizer, grows in nice, can mow or not. Why fight the clover? Clover is great if you ask me. Funny history.. Clover lawns were apparently all the rage pre-WWII. During WWII big companies made a lot of ammonium nitrate and other nice chemicals for bombs. Then after the war, they needed to create a market to use their products, so started lobbying, marketing what we know as 'typical' lawns today, which consume a ginormous amount of fertilizer.
PT 755 Fleur de Lawn

Cool site Chaka. I will show that to the misses. I wanted sod, but maybe we wait until fall and use seed.

[AdironRider]

As a former master of the landscape arts, I say you have a decision to make: lawn or xeriscape. Lawns take water, and a bunch more than 10 minutes a week or whatever truncated timeframe you are leaning towards. So you need to decide if you are going to water it or not.

If you are going the lawn route, I'd go sod assuming you aren't doing more than a tenth or two of an acre. You could kill everything, lay down some top soil, seed it, then water heavily, but this will take a year or three before it really grows in. I also wouldn't do seed until early next spring. You missed this boat for seeding. Sod you could lay down now and keep it wet for several weeks and it'll take. If going this route (seed or sod) I'd also combine it with a lot of plant beds and put drought tolerate trees in. Run those off a drip line. By doing this you will save the amount of water used substantially. Every year thereafter, overseed early spring (if you choose to seed it, sod will probably not need it), fertilize 2-3 times a year, and mow weekly. Grass does get encouraged to spread the more you mow it.

Otherwise xeriscape and forget about it. If you are hesitant to put more than 10 minutes of water a week on it no grass will grow in those conditions well.

Whatever you do, do not believe anyone who says synthetic is good. Its not and you can tell from a mile away. It still requires maintenance even. Lame all around.

I personally like lawns, but I have water rights and I'm not personally concerned about using them. If I was irrigating off a city water tap I'd probably have a nice 1-2k sq foot patch and the rest bed with fruit trees on a drip. That'd be a real nice yard in socal.

[liv2ski]

AR, thanks for the solid post. We have a bout 950 sq ft out front that is the cities parkway strips. Originally was thinking all xeroscape, but my wife suggested 60% sod, as my dogs love me to walk out and down the block with them a few houses, 3-4 times a day, so they can sniff around and do their business. The other 40% will be desert plants mixed in with Baja Beach pebbles. Living in So CA I hate to waste water, but even the xeroscape will need water, but likely half as much as sod and regardless, it all needs maintenance (gardener). So ya, waiting for the bids to come in and we will see what happens.

[riser4]

As a former master of the landscape arts, I say you have a decision to make: lawn or xeriscape. Lawns take water, and a bunch more than 10 minutes a week or whatever truncated timeframe you are leaning towards. So you need to decide if you are going to water it or not.

If you are going the lawn route, I'd go sod assuming you aren't doing more than a tenth or two of an acre. You could kill everything, lay down some top soil, seed it, then water heavily, but this will take a year or three before it really grows in. I also wouldn't do seed until early next spring. You missed this boat for seeding. Sod you could lay down now and keep it wet for several weeks and it'll take. If going this route (seed or sod) I'd also combine it with a lot of plant beds and put drought tolerate trees in. Run those off a drip line. By doing this you will save the amount of water used substantially. Every year thereafter, overseed early spring (if you choose to seed it, sod will probably not need it), fertilize 2-3 times a year, and mow weekly. Grass does get encouraged to spread the more you mow it.

Otherwise xeriscape and forget about it. If you are hesitant to put more than 10 minutes of water a week on it no grass will grow in those conditions well.

Whatever you do, do not believe anyone who says synthetic is good. Its not and you can tell from a mile away. It still requires maintenance even. Lame all around.

I personally like lawns, but I have water rights and I'm not personally concerned about using them. If I was irrigating off a city water tap I'd probably have a nice 1-2k sq foot patch and the rest bed with fruit trees on a drip. That'd be a real nice yard in socal.

Artificial actually works, looks nice, and makes sense in some spots. Friends in SLO have xeri in front and outside the fence in back. Inside the fence they have a very small plot of artificial. It is too big of an area to practically cover with patio hard scaping. Loose cover would get tracked into the house. It it is high traffic and partially shaded so grass is really hard to keep. The artificial is perfect. It's really just a very large patio area and nobody is pretending it's actually grass. The dog is a little confused by it. So while you might not like artificial yourself, there are some applications where it really makes sense. It's like carpet for outside. And the kids can roll around on it a lot better than concrete.

[AK47bp]

If I’ve got a small chunk of lawn in my yard. It’s half dead, weedy, and has a large hump in the middle. I want to kill it, regrade it flat, then bring in more top soil and reseed. How do I kill it? Rent a tiller, chop it up, pull out the grass chunks? Spend time with a shovel to lift it all up?


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I once just dumped topsoil over my grass (after cutting as low as possible). Consolidated it down with water and some weight to about 3 inches and then planted fresh grass seed on top. Now it’s the healthiest looking part of my lawn. My uneducated theory was that the old lawn would decompose into compost underneath and feed the new lawn’s roots.

Of course this took a lot of topsoil to smother out the old lawn but sounds like a small section.


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