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i really liked the fit. 26 was too short in the length, 27 was the ticket.
unfortunately, i can feel the heel pocket already aggravating my L haglund's just flexing on carpet (it's not tall enough to accommodate my pump bump even with the thinnest footbeds i got). near 0% chance of a punch due to the hoji-lock mechanism. considering trying a donut on the liner, but something's telling me to stick with the devil i already know (current ZGTPs)
I'd say the heel pocket itself is narrower in the ZGTP, while the ankle itself is smaller in the radical pro. instep is lower in the radical. i'd say try out the dynafit purely for the hoji-lock and walkability. really wish haglund's surgery was not such a complete fucking crapshoot (potentially year+ recovery and no guarantee pain will ever subside) cuz it would really open up so many more options for touring boots.
i've reached out to the first guy who expressed interest. i'll run down the list for the rest of you once he gets back to me.
I’m surprised at how wide the heels are in these boots (radical and hoji) and much heel lift I get in the radical compared to the Vulcan. Not a lot of cup shape. Heel pinch pads don’t do much.
I ended up just ordering a 27 from Dynafit. No Bueno.
Weight as stock is 1550 (website states 1380 for a 26.5). I also thought the heels felt large. The liners have better heel pockets than the Hoji Free but I didn’t feel anywhere as tucked into the plastic as with ZGTP or Hawx XTD.
Forefoot felt great, walk mode is flawless. I tried putting some unmolded Tour Wraps in them and there isn’t enough room over the instep to even buckle the boots. You’d want to be super careful during a liner mold with wraps to not get things folded in there
I had a very similar experience with this boot. I wanted the radical to fit soo bad!! Tried multiple sizes and liner combinations and in the end had to move on. The Vulcan fit my foot perfectly, and I will continue to use it with a new protour. I was able to get a really good fit in the Skorpius, albeit a different class of boot.
Anyone have custom fit/cooking/heat molding instructions for these bad bois?
Just picked up a pair yesterday and I've never had a ski boot that fits my gaping forefoot as well as these but they could still use some help.
I also have a gaping forefoot. I home cooked my old Intuition Tour Wraps for these boots. I always do a toe cap, with a little extra side padding (cut up yoga mat) taped on, as well as extra padding over my instep/arch area. With that combination I was able to make plenty of room in the liner, and didn't even end up needing to punch the boot, which is really not the norm for me.
I’ve put a ton of work into these (intuition pro tour liners, custom beds, punches) and can’t seem to get a snug fit around my foot. They tour great, no complaints. On the down I’m reminded of the “hot dog down a hallway” saying. I can feel my foot traveling inside the boot before I engage the ski.
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How do I take up volume?
Have any of you had to do similar tweaks?
Side note- I ski Kryptons inbounds (110 flex with a 130 “B” tongue added, plus a booster strap) and I weigh 185 at 6’. I would not say the radical pro has a progressive flex by comparison. To me, it way less dynamic and more like a wall.
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^ that sounds like the pro tour liner. Soft, thin, no heel hold. You could try the HV or try nodding a different liner like the HD Race to get the hold but take up room.
I’m the meantime, put a shim inside the liner (or under it), put on heel pinch pads, and put a pad on the face of your ankle to ouch you back.
Or wrap the entire ankle of your liner in 1/2” foam. Works like a hot damn if you really need your ankle locked in.
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at the ski shop they will stick/ glue stuff to your liner but I didn't have any of that stuff so I tried the opposite which was to stick stuff inside the shell which I havent heard of anybody doing
https://www.princessauto.com/en/2-in...t/PA0008072944
I used irrigation pump discharge hose ductaped taped to the inside of my alpine shells, it does not move or pack out, its thin enough (.6mm) to easily bend around curves, its easy to layer, its easy to cut, and @ 1.20 per foot its very cheap from your local feed store
Last edited by XXX-er; 12-30-2022 at 12:43 PM.
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
We’re still living the dark ages. There’s still not a touring boot made that properly fits even a moderately narrow foot (although there are some better choices than a Radical Pro), and none that flex like a plush cabrio (Krypton/Full Tilt) boot. Hoji Free 110s have less volume than Radical Pros (though the flex is still a compromise), and Dreamliners will take up much more space than Pro Tours. Roxa R3s do fit my narrowish foot better, and flex ok (still too stiff off the top for me) but aren’t a true touring boot.
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Look on the bright side. Gear is better than its ever been.
My Hoji 110 are the best ski touring boot I’ve ever had. Kryptons with tech fittings finally got made! 300g pin bindings, 1800g Bentchetlers are light and shred. 160hp direct inject 2 stroke flying snow carpet don’t seem so “dark age” and you can even get turbos on your BRP snow carpets now!
At least it’s way better than Scarpa Lazers with raichle tongues, Naxos, non rockered skis and flooded carbs.
I can't find the review but one mentioned using some brand of heel sock to take up some of the heel and instep volume in these boots. I hadnt heard of that before but it sounded like a specific brand makes one for this specific purpose. I thought it was wild snow but then no mention in thier review that i read, maybe they did 2 reviews?
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Yes thats them . 2mm thick so 4mm for both sides would take up a fair bit of space. I wonder how comfy theyd be in a ski boot
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Mini Plug just got the women’s version. Anybody molded the stock liner yet, and give advice?
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