The big, stuck boat

**Whiteroom_Guardian** · 03-26-2021, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by skiHOG

There's only two kinds of captains on this planet. Those that have run aground, and those that are lying about it.

Family used to have a place in FL Keys. Locals saying was, "Ain't run aground? You ain't been around!"

**Soups** · 03-26-2021, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Assuming most of the the stuff on any container ship is consumer goods I don't see where they get those loss figures. So the Walmart in Peoria gets their lawn chairs a couple weeks late, so what?

Obviously stuff needed for further manufacturing like circuit boards would be much higher value but I wonder if high-value shit like that even travels by container.

I read that a lot of raw materials/electronics/etc are getting fucked for manufacturing in Europe. That and fuel from the middle east are the biggies. Sure the US will prob see some delayed shit, but Europe is more fucked I would think.

**XXX-er** · 03-26-2021, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Assuming most of the the stuff on any container ship is consumer goods I don't see where they get those loss figures. So the Walmart in Peoria gets their lawn chairs a couple weeks late, so what?

Obviously stuff needed for further manufacturing like circuit boards would be much higher value but I wonder if high-value shit like that even travels by container.

90 % of everything you touch came in a seacan and was put on a truck

maybe they don't let you touch very many things in your " facility"

**Soups** · 03-26-2021, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

90 % of everything you touch came in a seacan and was put on a truck

maybe they don't let you touch very many things in your " facility"

Sure, but we live in North Amercia and 90% of what we touch comes from Asia. Don't see those ships going through the Suez.

**glademaster** · 03-26-2021, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Soups

Sure, but we live in North Amercia and 90% of what we touch comes from Asia. Don't see those ships going through the Suez.

A man, a plan, a canal: Panama.

**BmillsSkier** · 03-26-2021, 08:22 PM

Touch my stuff... I’ll kill ya.

**XXX-er** · 03-26-2021, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Soups

Sure, but we live in North Amercia and 90% of what we touch comes from Asia. Don't see those ships going through the Suez.

the Haida have a saying and it would be in Haida " every thing is connected to everything "

**bagtagley** · 03-26-2021, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Touch my stuff... I’ll kill ya.

Lighten up, Francis

**ötzi** · 03-26-2021, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

90 % of everything you touch came in a seacan and was put on a truck

Definitely not true for me, but I'm sure I'm an outlier. But if I needed a new smart phone and a new TV and new shoes right now, and I lived in Europe, I'm still gonna need it alll in a couple weeks or a month when it becomes available and I'll buy it then. So where's the loss?

**XXX-er** · 03-26-2021, 08:29 PM

if this is costing the world economy 10billion a day who pays for it ?

eventualy the trickle down will effect your " facility "

**ötzi** · 03-26-2021, 08:32 PM

xer en fuego

you drinkin, man?

**Benny Profane** · 03-26-2021, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Assuming most of the the stuff on any container ship is consumer goods I don't see where they get those loss figures. So the Walmart in Peoria gets their lawn chairs a couple weeks late, so what?

Obviously stuff needed for further manufacturing like circuit boards would be much higher value but I wonder if high-value shit like that even travels by container.

Toilet paper! Again! When will we shake this curse?

**XXX-er** · 03-26-2021, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Toilet paper! Again! When will we shake this curse?

I told you to instal the 67$ bidet last year and you didn't listen

**abraham** · 03-26-2021, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Definitely not true for me, but I'm sure I'm an outlier. But if I needed a new smart phone and a new TV and new shoes right now, and I lived in Europe, I'm still gonna need it alll in a couple weeks or a month when it becomes available and I'll buy it then. So where's the loss?

I bet dollars/hour for idle employees and machine time adds up there pretty quick. And time sensitive orders that might be rejected if they are delayed too much. But yeah, it's not like 100 ships a day are sinking while they wait, much of the value of goods on those boats will still be used.

It occurred to me last night that if someone wanted to make a dent on the world for a bit while we're all watching, a couple boats and the willingness to do a couple repeats of the uss cole would create a huge mess.

**Benny Profane** · 03-26-2021, 08:46 PM

X

**bennymac** · 03-26-2021, 08:48 PM

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**Benny Profane** · 03-26-2021, 08:48 PM

Of course, Florida man jealous, will not be upstaged.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...psq-story.html

**ötzi** · 03-26-2021, 08:50 PM

@ abraham: That's been a scenario that's been widely discussed and it's a little surprising there hasn't been a serious attempt as far as we know, but considering this event is the exact equivalent until they move the thing there doesn't seem to have been a ton of actual planning for it done.

**BCMtnHound** · 03-26-2021, 09:10 PM

The interest alone on all the borrowed capital used to secure the orders on the goods in those containers is likely a boatload of cash. For the CN rail line here, when the train is stopped, after an hour, CN loses about 2million an hour was the figure given to us when we plan resource road/rail line crossing safety protocols, or apply risk to downslope/downstream infrastructure when getting the hydrologist and geotechs out in the field. And this is a northern line in Canuckistan. That ship has way more than a single string of container rail cars on it, let alone the ships waiting in the queue. The goods must flow.

**ötzi** · 03-26-2021, 09:25 PM

My only point, and it's not an important one, is that these "X Dollars Lost Per Day" numbers are questionable. Not that there aren't losses, just that they're making this dollar value shit up because it makes better headlines.

**AK47bp** · 03-26-2021, 09:39 PM

Well if there are bananas on that ship they are probably ripe by now.

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**ötzi** · 03-26-2021, 09:42 PM

Smoothies for the Sinai!

**leroy jenkins** · 03-26-2021, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by ::: :::

you know she's giving it away, right?

Originally Posted by SeatownSlackey

Wow That’s a seriously sexist and misogynistic take. Guessing you have zero idea of her level of involvement in early days of a garage officed Amazon

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for fucks sake stop being offended for a moment and realize it is an unprecedented thing in history and is pretty crazy to think about

**leroy jenkins** · 03-26-2021, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

My only point, and it's not an important one, is that these "X Dollars Lost Per Day" numbers are questionable. Not that there aren't losses, just that they're making this dollar value shit up because it makes better headlines.

I bet there are more effects that are impossible to be aware of and calculate in than there are costs that get inflated.