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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    I can't do AA ... I don't want to have to explain more but I tried it and it's not for me.

    I have always drank but now it's officially beyond my control.

    Does anyone have a non-AA suggestion for help?
    Dharma recovery, check it out.
    https://recoverydharma.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    I can't do AA ... I don't want to have to explain more but I tried it and it's not for me.

    I have always drank but now it's officially beyond my control.

    Does anyone have a non-AA suggestion for help?

    I don't even feel like I can talk to my current therapist, who is fucking amazing, but who is also my couples therapist, and I've been hiding it from my wife. So not happening.
    AA isn't for everyone. Wasn't for me... not in the least. I know my reasons, be curious to hear yours.

    Feel free to reach out to me and we can chat. Can't promise that I can help, but willing to try.

    I've been sober over 16 years now. It never gets easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    If so— congratulations. Your body considers alcohol to be a fuel. You’re an ism.
    ^No idea if this is based in science or has any medical merit... but I was a super alcohol fueler back in my bad days. Not just the day to day, but I could compete athletically and hammer out ultra-endurance efforts on booze-fuel. A terrible super power - who needs a positive reward system for more alcohol consumption?

    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    Another sign of alcoholism is there are no hangovers, just withdrawals.
    Legit. A sure sign of the endless nightmare of basically full time drinking, the permanent midnight.

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    Sobriety, V2.

    Redacted as I can’t delete for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    I can't do AA ... I don't want to have to explain more but I tried it and it's not for me.

    I have always drank but now it's officially beyond my control.

    Does anyone have a non-AA suggestion for help?

    I don't even feel like I can talk to my current therapist, who is fucking amazing, but who is also my couples therapist, and I've been hiding it from my wife. So not happening.

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    Your wife knows. Unless you're living pretty separate lives at this point, don't kid yourself. Agreed, your couples therapist is not the one to bring this to, but if they're doing their job they will refer you to someone else. But you gotta take it to somebody, there's only so much accountability you can get out of a bunch of randos from the internet.

    I'm not an AA subscriber either, but one of many things they got right is if you won't own up to it, you'll never get on top of it. I don't know your situation, but talking to your wife might be the admission you need to make a permanent change. Maybe it's a no go, maybe it's an opportunity.

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    Thanks for the support.

    I intend to take responsibility, and i think this is where it starts, but I'm not ready to do that with the wife right now. She knows some but not all.

    I have looked into recovery dharma as more than one of you have suggested and I will make time for it next week.

    Tomorrow I'm taking my son skiing... just me and the boy... focusing on the excitement of that for now... that's my main priority right now. We finally have snow here so I hope he does ok as a 5 year old beginner in what might be mild powder snow.

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    Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season

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    Take joy in just hanging out with him, and being his dad. It’s hard to lose sight of the fact that those moments are precious (regardless of how it goes, lol). Alcohol dulls the clarity of what those moments mean. Have fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    I have looked into recovery dharma as more than one of you have suggested and I will make time for it next week.
    I'll shoot you a pm on Monday for a reminder. Have fun with the kiddo today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    I can't do AA ... I don't want to have to explain more but I tried it and it's not for me.

    I have always drank but now it's officially beyond my control.

    Does anyone have a non-AA suggestion for help?

    I don't even feel like I can talk to my current therapist, who is fucking amazing, but who is also my couples therapist, and I've been hiding it from my wife. So not happening.

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    I did it without AA.
    Totally recovered now.
    Unfortunately you need Facebook to access the recovery groups.
    Thats the platform that carries most of the information.
    Annie Grace " This naked mind" has a great platform with like minded people finding recovery together.
    Here is a link to a free 5 day program.
    https://start.controlalcohollive.com...xS_ukBQacXL5Yu
    She also has a free 30 day program.
    William Porter had a " Alcohol Explained " group that is also following a science based recovery.
    I see things differently than AA.
    Thats ok 👌
    We all travel the path of sobriety and recovery differently.
    My road has come to a end.
    I'm now cutting a skintrack for others to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    I can't do AA ... I don't want to have to explain more but I tried it and it's not for me.

    I have always drank but now it's officially beyond my control.

    Does anyone have a non-AA suggestion for help?

    I don't even feel like I can talk to my current therapist, who is fucking amazing, but who is also my couples therapist, and I've been hiding it from my wife. So not happening.

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    I followed a program based on a book called some sat in darkness It is Bible based but has a lot of good practicals for staying sober

    There is alanon and other types of recovery groups like celebrate recovery

    Relating to other’s situations is important
    Not judging but relating especially as you get sober and your life gets better don’t look down on others

    Remembering I am not alone in the fight

    It is a battle and it’s ok to struggle as long as I don’t use

    The struggle is real and I have to admit that

    Be grateful for every day and be present

    Get a sponsor and work together to stay sober

    Remember everyone already knows your not hiding anything and talk through your struggles

    If you have one foot in yesterday and one in tomorrow your dumping on today It’s ok to learn from the past don’t dwell on it The future is what you make of it today




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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Thanks for the support.

    I intend to take responsibility, and i think this is where it starts, but I'm not ready to do that with the wife right now. She knows some but not all.

    I have looked into recovery dharma as more than one of you have suggested and I will make time for it next week.

    Tomorrow I'm taking my son skiing... just me and the boy... focusing on the excitement of that for now... that's my main priority right now. We finally have snow here so I hope he does ok as a 5 year old beginner in what might be mild powder snow.

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    Try talking with your General Practitioner, get one if you don’t. Be open to Rx. Suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWINS View Post
    I did it without AA.
    Totally recovered now.
    Unfortunately you need Facebook to access the recovery groups.
    Thats the platform that carries most of the information.
    Annie Grace " This naked mind" has a great platform with like minded people finding recovery together.
    Here is a link to a free 5 day program.
    https://start.controlalcohollive.com...xS_ukBQacXL5Yu
    She also has a free 30 day program.
    William Porter had a " Alcohol Explained " group that is also following a science based recovery.
    I see things differently than AA.
    Thats ok 👌
    We all travel the path of sobriety and recovery differently.
    My road has come to a end.
    I'm now cutting a skintrack for others to follow.
    Sounds good. I'm curious what you see differently than aa? I feel like it all comes down to honesty within yourself. Thx.

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    I agree, honesty in all aspects of your life is critical, ime. There is also a thing called Radical Self Actualization that I went through not long ago, before I even knew it was a thing. For me, I experienced a true coming to terms with who I am, who I was, and realistic assent of who I am, and likely can be at this age going forward. It gave me immense depths of gratitude, and has made it possible to endure some of the stuff I have been going through.
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