Tech binding DIN-range - where to be in the spectrum?

[tomh79]

I don't fully understand how tech bindings/spring physics work. Maybe somebody can shed some light: I skied different bindings with my calculated DIN value 6.5 - now, when buying a new tech binding, is it better to be in the middle/lower part/high party of the binding's spectrum?

E.g. deciding between ATK R10 (DIN 4-10) or R12 (DIN 5-12) - would it be wither with DIN 6.5 to buy the R10 since 6.5 is closer to the 7 (4+10/2) average of the R12 than to 8.5 (5+12/2) of the R12?

Thanks!

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[kathleenturneroverdrive]

E.g. deciding between ATK R10 (DIN 4-10) or R12 (DIN 5-12) - would it be wither with DIN 6.5 to buy the R10 since 6.5 is closer to the 7 (4+10/2) average of the R12 than to 8.5 (5+12/2) of the R12?

Thanks!

This link has all the answers you’re looking for

[nickwm21]

You are getting BS responses because of two things.

1: If a binding is certified and tested to a certain din value, then it works at that value. No need to worry about being at the top, middle, or bottom of the range. It’s like asking if 60mph is faster on a 0-80 odometer or a 40-100 odometer.

2: Tech bindings in a traditional sense do not have a din adjustable release in the toe. So you can only really dial in your heel and the toe is what the toe is...


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[glademaster]

2: Tech bindings in a traditional sense do not have a din adjustable release in the toe. So you can only really dial in your heel and the toe is what the toe is...


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They don't have DIN settings at the heel either. RV is not the same as DIN.

[XXX-er]

It would be DIN like but not really DIN because tech bindings are not certifyed

My verts and rads I set to the same DIN like settings as my alpine gear

except I set the vertical release (small screw) 1 higher to stop prerelease

but i know what you are getting at the idea that its best to be in the middle of the DIN range on an alpine binding which i don't think applies to tech so if you need 10 run them at 10

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Tectons and Vipecs have TUV DIN certification no?


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[glademaster]

I think you're correct about the Tectons and Vipecs. The OP stated he had a problem with Vipecs, I believe. The vast majority of tech bindings just have adjustable RV, not DIN certification.

[gregL]

Tectons and Vipecs have TUV DIN certification no?

Yes, and some others as well (Kingpin comes to mind). They are certified to the "Touring Binding Standard" ISO 13992, not the "Alpine Binding Standard" ISO 9462. The test is similar but not the same.

TÜV is not the standard itself but the agency that does the testing. As far as I know, no heels that have a "tech gap" are certified, but a number of the ones with a "touch gap" and spring-loaded travel at the heel are - not sure about ATK.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Touring binding certification is not the same as alpine bindings:

https://www.wildsnow.com/14843/din-i...sting-summary/

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[MagnificentUnicorn]

I’ve been very happy with the predictable release of Tectons in awkward or unexpected falls. The only time I had a problem was a very low speed twisting fall in stiff and hollow early season snow. I don’t think an alpine binding would have been any better.


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[tomh79]

OK sorry - thanks for correcting me. Here in Europe with only speak of "Z-value" - I translated this and came up with DIN - not knowing it would cause confusion. But asking the same question again (DIN replaced with RV then...) - still BS?

[gregL]

OK sorry - thanks for correcting me. Here in Europe with only speak of "Z-value" - I translated this and came up with DIN - not knowing it would cause confusion. But asking the same question again (DIN replaced with RV then...) - still BS?

In your case, either binding will be fine.

Most experienced tech binding users like to be a number or two under the maximum, especially for upward/forward release at the heel, because people often set that higher to "approximate" the retention of their alpine bindings set at the same number. If you set your bindings at 6.5, you are well under the max for either binding.

[tomh79]

In your case, either binding will be fine.

Most experienced tech binding users like to be a number or two under the maximum, especially for upward/forward release at the heel, because people often set that higher to "approximate" the retention of their alpine bindings set at the same number. If you set your bindings at 6.5, you are well under the max for either binding.

Thanks a lot!!