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    Random Unthreadworthy Questions

    ^Was thinking the same thing in my unprofessional opinion. Also reset any gfi outlets if there happen to be any in the building, have seen one gfi trip a few outlets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I’m guessing a failing circuit breaker. (I doubt you have actual fuses.) Note: note I am not an electrician, I am just spitballing.


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    Yeah.... I'm using the term fuse for breaker. I'm old.

    Should note the tack room has 2 switches that control the lights whereas the hay loft/shedrow have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    ^Was thinking the same thing in my unprofessional opinion. Also reset any gfi outlets if there happen to be any in the building, have seen one gfi trip a few outlets
    Entire barn is GCFI. Probably a dozen or more outlets
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    Long shot here - mice in the wiring?

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    Outlets are all on their own breakers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Long shot here - mice in the wiring?
    All metal conduit specifically for wet/dusty environments. Had a top notch electrician. Barn was built in '09



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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    But make sure your furnace can handle a MERV 13 filter. Run the fan continuously. And change monthly. The last time we had bad smoke a MERV 11 seemed adequate, at least as far as my five senses could tell.
    I'd love to see more thorough testing and more brands (or standardized pressure drop ratings that the manufacturers can report)...but the 3m Filtrete brand MERV 13 supposedly actually have some of the lowest pressure drops.

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    The 3m MERV 13 even beats most of the the MERV 6 and 7 filters (including the 3m one)

    So in theory...if your furnace can handle a cheap MERV 6, then it should be able to handle a Filtrete MERV 13 just fine. But NOT a Nordic Pure or Flanders 13 as those look terrible.

    But I think you are right--11 is mostly good enough for wildfire smoke unless your house is super leaky. 13 works better, but your house air is being exchanged through the filter multiple times, especially if you keep the fan running. It isn't like a vacuum filter where you've only got one pass to catch everything.

    3m doesn't make the filter sizes I need, so I buy the Filterbuy 11s and hope it doesn't kill my HVAC...although looking at this chart even the Filterbuy 13 might be marginally better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post

    Did the tackroom lights stay on when you flipped the switch for the hayloft?
    Yup. Tackroom lights work fine.

    All lights in tackroon/hayloft/shedrow are fully enclosed screw on glass with metal cages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Look at fuse box. Nothing tripped. Flipped the fuse for tack room/hayloft/shedrow. Tried hayloft lights. Working now as are the shed row lights. WTF?
    It's possible that breaker was tripped. The plastic switch that you can move isn't directly attached to the contacts. Instead, there's a notched lever inside so that tripping can happen independent from the switch (otherwise, some idiot could jam the switch to the on position to stop "nuisance" tripping).

    Once the breaker has tripped and the internal part of the switch isn't in the notch, the outer part moves (at least partly) toward the off position to show you it's tripped, but dust, age, etc. means that it might not (some brands more that others)

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    Switches can go bad.

    Open up boxes and test wires directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    All metal conduit specifically for wet/dusty environments. Had a top notch electrician. Barn was built in '09
    Ah, nice.

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    Too funny muted. I bought the shit for the DIY home air filtration system at HD last year but never ended up using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Entire barn is GCFI. Probably a dozen or more outlets
    Are any of the outlets controlled by those light switches? Even if they aren't definitely check all the GFCIs. (Outlets on a switched circuit can still be hot all the time if they're wired wrong, so there could be outlets on the switched circuits that you don't realize or on those circuits.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Why would some lights work and others not when they are all on the same fuse?

    Tack room, hay loft, shedrow lights share a fuse. Everything was working last night when I shut up the barn.

    This morning I turned on the tack room lights then flipped the switch for the hayloft and went upstairs. No lights. Went back down - yup flipped the switch, back up, no lights (there are 6 light fixtures in the hayloft). Checked the shed row light which are on the sane switch plate - nothing.

    Look at fuse box. Nothing tripped. Flipped the fuse for tack room/hayloft/shedrow. Tried hayloft lights. Working now as are the shed row lights. WTF?

    Tackroom switch is the single. Stacked switches are hayloft/shedrow.Attachment 504842
    Take the cover off, get a multimeter and check the switches wiring in the on position and see if they have voltage would be one step. Any electrical issues other than bad switch could also go back to breaker and working your way further toward the lights.

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    If you do find any debris inside the switch boxes tape up the holes. Worth checking the outlets for debris as well, considering the location.
    Re GFCI--a tripped GFCI wouldn't reset itself. I'm back to dirt in the switch theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    It's possible that breaker was tripped. The plastic switch that you can move isn't directly attached to the contacts. Instead, there's a notched lever inside so that tripping can happen independent from the switch (otherwise, some idiot could jam the switch to the on position to stop "nuisance" tripping).

    Once the breaker has tripped and the internal part of the switch isn't in the notch, the outer part moves (at least partly) toward the off position to show you it's tripped, but dust, age, etc. means that it might not (some brands more that others)
    Adding to this and addressing KQ's first question: are these on a "double" breaker so you flip one handle made up of two breaker switches connected into one piece? If so, it sounds like one of those underlying breakers feeds the tack room and the other the loft and shed row. In that case one breaker can flip alone without forcing the handle to move (much, as Ted described).

    Isolated event or something wrong on that circuit?

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    KQ - to be clear, do you have multiple gfci outlets around the barn? Yes? Then have you checked every outlet to see if any have been tripped?

    If ya have a tripped one in the middle then those after it in that line won't work, but the ones before it will.

    Also, you can get a plug tester that's cheap, tells you of a wiring/grounding issue and doesn't require taking offa a dozen plates. If you have metal boxes and conduit, ain't nothing getting in there and stuffing debris.

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    Thanks for all the replies. I did some troubleshooting based on your advice but still nothing. Breaker is a single not a dbl. Outlets have their own breakers. Gonna get an electrician out - don't want to mess with it and risk a fire. Breaker is off for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Thanks for all the replies. I did some troubleshooting based on your advice but still nothing. Breaker is a single not a dbl. Outlets have their own breakers. Gonna get an electrician out - don't want to mess with it and risk a fire. Breaker is off for now.
    Maybe this goes without saying, but have you confirmed that the tack room lights don't work with the breaker flipped?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Maybe this goes without saying, but have you confirmed that the tack room lights don't work with the breaker flipped?
    Good point--I used to have two electeric water heaters, on 2 separate breakers, in two separate subpanels, on two separate floors (the subpanels were on two separate floors, the water heaters were right next to each other. ) Only found out because I turned the heaters off at the breaker--or thought I did--well before the plumber came to remove them, and he wondered why one was still hot. Glad the other one had enough time to cool off or I could be paying damages to the plumber's family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Maybe this goes without saying, but have you confirmed that the tack room lights don't work with the breaker flipped?
    Yes.

    All lights work since I initially flipped the breaker on and off but I've been keeping it in the off position because I don't know what's wrong and barn fires scare the crap out of me.

    It seems so odd that it's one breaker for three areas but it only effected two while the other one worked fine.

    There is one thing I didn't mention and I'm not sure if it makes a difference, the tack room has two on/off switches whereas the hayloft and shedrow have only one. The pic I posted of the switch was where the 3 meet and yes the tackroom switch worked but the other 2 didn't (the other tackroom switch worked too).

    I'm having bad electrical juju.

    Had a brand new stock tank heater (installed it last week) trip the gfci outlet it was plugged into. Tested it on another outlet and it tripped that too (unrelated outlet). Both outlets worked fine when I tested them with a shop vac.

    <shudder>

    Don't like to think about my animals getting burned or electrocuted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Yes.

    All lights work since I initially flipped the breaker on and off but I've been keeping it in the off position because I don't know what's wrong and barn fires scare the crap out of me.

    It seems so odd that it's one breaker for three areas but it only effected two while the other one worked fine.

    There is one thing I didn't mention and I'm not sure if it makes a difference, the tack room has two on/off switches whereas the hayloft and shedrow have only one. The pic I posted of the switch was where the 3 meet and yes the tackroom switch worked but the other 2 didn't (the other tackroom switch worked too).

    I'm having bad electrical juju.

    Had a brand new stock tank heater (installed it last week) trip the gfci outlet it was plugged into. Tested it on another outlet and it tripped that too (unrelated outlet). Both outlets worked fine when I tested them with a shop vac.

    <shudder>

    Don't like to think about my animals getting burned or electrocuted.
    GFCI are really sensitive to the 80% amp draw limit. Most small heating elements are 1500W, which is 12.5A on a 120V circuit, or 83% of the 15A capacity (breaker or inline CFCI). Even a couple of active lights on the same circuit, depending on where the CFGI is located, may trip the circuit when the heating element is plugged in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCMtnHound View Post
    GFCI are really sensitive to the 80% amp draw limit. Most small heating elements are 1500W, which is 12.5A on a 120V circuit, or 83% of the 15A capacity (breaker or inline CFCI). Even a couple of active lights on the same circuit, depending on where the CFGI is located, may trip the circuit when the heating element is plugged in.
    Which is why circuits other than just lights should be 20A, as I've learned the hard way.

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