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Got it. Once in a while I will recommend that route - excellent skier who puts in 50+ days a year with a legit 90-95mm foot - they actually need someone to make the boot skiable (punch/grind/slot the shell to make it flex easier, plane sole and probably add rubber, etc.) and ex-racer boot techs are the best at this.
I have clearly never had a tight enough last. My Lange plugs are the first boots I haven’t maxed the buckles on. I’m pretty excited, tight through the shaft as well.
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I rip the groomed on tele gear
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How specialized a skill is cuff alignment? Or, rephrased, if someone is considered a good bootfitter does that usually include cuff alignment skills?
When people here talk about "building a plug" they are referring to making a true race boot fit and flex to their liking, as well as fit into a binding. It is a time-consuming process.
Most true race boots come with a thick sole that is not ISO 5355 spec, and won't fit in an alpine binding. A bootfitter with a sole planer needs to make it thinner, and the assumption is they will also tailor the cant angle to your stance while they're at it. Often you also need to grind the top of the toe lug so it's parallel to the bottom of the sole. Not all people who call themselves bootfitters have the requisite tools and skills to do this, and that's assuming they have the skill to assess your stance accurately.
Exactly. I fit boots in PC for seven years, but I fit them for mostly soft rich tourists. I was really good at it, and this was back in the day when liners sucked and we had to basically build them ourselves. I almost got to the point where I was confident grinding soles, but not quite.
I went and saw Brent Amsbury at park city ski boots. Had intuition molding, footbed grinding, toe punches and some boot grinding. He warped the toe and boots are toast. He is getting another pair and I will not be going back to him. Time lost 6 hours.
So my experience not good. He is human and people make mistakes. Just wanted to share for posterity
Not sure why he did all the punches in the first place. Went back to Mandy and just a mold and no punches required.
So I recommend you do not go to PC ski boot
I have had good luck with Mandy at level nine
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I need to go to Utah.
Utah?
Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?
So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....
Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues
8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35
2021/2022 (13/15)
Reviving this thread and small rant.
Anyone have some recs in SLC? Went to a shop today to just get a heat mold and ended up just paying $80 for 10 minutes of measuring my foot. I appreciated the customer service but there needs to be a balance between working with what someone brings in and trying to make a $1500 sale. I get that one size down plus 2 punches on each boot will fit me 10-15% better, but adding some padding in the heal pocket and a small punch on one boot for a boot I currently own is much more financially feasible.
It wasn’t anything egregious but just a bit frustrating when I go in expecting one thing and then leave with $80 less - I think the $80 would be applied to some future work if I wanted to go back but that wasn’t completely clear. I scheduled the appointment and when I got in they asked what I needed and I said a heat mold and maybe a punch. Then he went through and measured my foot, put the boot on, went and grabbed a different boot and recommended I go with the boot he grabbed plus $700 in additional work (footbeds, punches, etc). Also said he wouldn’t recommend heat molding my boot because of the fit.
Maybe I could’ve just pushed harder to do the mold but was mostly just surprised he tried to upsell me $1500 and felt I’d rather go elsewhere by then.
Sports Loft?
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If ski companies didn't make new skis every year I wouldn't have to get new skis every year.
www.levelninesports.com
http://skiingyeti.blogspot.com/
So I need a liner molded, probably 2-4 punches and maybe take up some room around the ankle with some L-pads. Any idea what I would be looking at cost wise with Brent?
Or really cost wise anywhere reputable if people have recommendations. Is Mandy still a go to at Level 9?
A guy I’ve been using for years fucked up what I would consider a simple Intuition heat mold by putting a fold in them, and I’m not sure I want to go back there. Maybe he had an off day but it soured me.
Couple of years ago I had good luck with an Intuition heat mold at Sports Loft on Highland. Guy measured my foot and good to go, out of there in ~1 hour. No upsell
Little spendy for the molding but so damn comfortable, I'd go back
Tried booking Mandy at Level 9 but she’s booked until late Dec. Sports Den has their prices listed on the website to give you an idea. I might give them a go. I get that my boots aren’t a true alpine fit but after multiple surgeries on one and dealing with neuromas a little extra room is fine by me at the expense of some power transmission into my edges.
my fiance is dealing with a headache. Bought new dalbellos at L9 downtown, guy said, come in and get them molded when you have more time. Makes appt, goes in, different guy says oh, no, ski those first. sends her home. L9 Millcreek says "we dont have reciprocity between stores" so now shes stuck with boots with new 3DensityWrap Max intuiton liners and isnt sure what to do. this is me ranting as i know the benefit of a proper fit/fitter/going to someone.
"If we can't bring the mountain to the party, let's bring the PARTY to the MOUNTAIN!"
I heat my zips in my own oven. Never had an issue.
I have good luck with Mandy at L9 in Millcreek. Nice service and good knowledge. She loves cheeses and cookies.
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I need to go to Utah.
Utah?
Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?
So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....
Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues
8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35
2021/2022 (13/15)
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