The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

[Core Shot]

nope… had to trek across the boarder to nab another motor.

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a 96,000 mile beauty, and a few other essentials for a mere $325 us.

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had the bible thumpin’ hot rod shop slap it in…

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got all them horses back in the barn! time ta head to estas to rip up that 1/4 mile …. Fact.


https://www.estadrags.com/

Fack. That’s full upstates

[spencer108]

okay so what do we think about this map?? I had way too much time on my hands at work today and tried to summarize some of the major recent discussion points from this thread.. I think we're getting close but there's still a lot open for debate. I'm open to any and all criticism/suggestions/feedback/judgement, etc.

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Solid work here, Boosh. First round at the next class reunion is on me.

I’ll be honest, first time seeing “Ontario Plains”. I like it.

Anybody who takes a stance in this discussion on a Central, NY line I respect. For me, central NY is anything east of the NYS fairgrounds exit on I90.

The 104 corridor deserves special attention when it comes to dividing up western NY. Blue tarp central. For the high rollers, ZIP system as the primary siding (think Tyvek but for the upper-middle class). I also think 104 also has the highest # of DWIs in the state. Purely anecdotal, though.




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[huckbucket]

WNY hosting a biggun this week. Lucas Herbert's caddy can be an honorary upstater.

[half-fast]

I'll be there Friday

[spanky]

I thought that was David Letterman caddying.

[gravitylover]

That tournament has hotel rooms at double or higher in the whole area. Between Brockport graduation last weekend and the tourney rooms were over $300 at the dumpy Section 8 motel and over $400 at the Hampton Inn.

CNY is mostly bounded by I88 almost down to Binghamton then NW to about Geneva, north to 104, NE to Oswego, E through Rome to Utica then S back to 88. The Fingerlakes have to be their own zone for a bunch of reasons and that runs to somewhere around a N/S line going through Mendon/Bloomfield. The Ontario Plains idea is good but doesn't have a real distinction (yet) and the Northern Pennsyltucky designaton is appropriate and could be probably use the Susquehana and Delaware Rivers to define them.

[RShea]

and the Northern Pennsyltucky designaton is appropriate and could be probably use the Susquehana and Delaware Rivers to define them.

No Delaware or Susquehana river over by Bradford, Warren PA and points north of those in NY like Clymer, Ripley, Limestone, Portville, etc. in the Western part of the Upstate. Other than having usually higher taxes for being north of the line...

[gravitylover]

Yeah once that far west 17/86 will do although there are intense NP pockets north of the road, but it also properly moves it east to where it belongs Binghamton isn't the border of the Southern Tier or NP. I mean, Port Jervis is kind of like an end point, right?

[gravitylover]

Have I told y'all how much I dislike NYC anymore recently? I have the hardest time seeing how I enjoyed spending 5 days a week there for 10 1/2 years. Meeting Spanky, going out to lunch with Benny multiple times were memorable high points and a hardcore drinking session at a rooftop bar with Aldo and Plakespeare were awesome but now I find it hard to appreciate a few hours there. What a shithole...

[m2711c]

agreed.

[skinipenem]

I am not sure anything east of i-87 is really the Adirondacks. And you left out theTaconics. East of the Hudson is it's own special kind of weirdly special place.

The Adirondack state park most definitely extends east of I 87.

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[skinipenem]

Anyone have beta to share about Niagra Falls? I'll be there for work the last week of May.

Looking for good food. Good mountain bike trails to ride in the evenings.

I have a passport and can cross the border. Limited time though as I'll be working until n at least 1600 each day.

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[spanky]

Have I told y'all how much I dislike NYC anymore recently? I have the hardest time seeing how I enjoyed spending 5 days a week there for 10 1/2 years. Meeting Spanky, going out to lunch with Benny multiple times were memorable high points and a hardcore drinking session at a rooftop bar with Aldo and Plakespeare were awesome but now I find it hard to appreciate a few hours there. What a shithole...

Well, at least it’s not upstate as fuck!

Good meeting and hanging with you when we worked down the street from each other!

Living upstate would take me too far from this.

[gravitylover]

I get it. I went for a ride a few days ago that I couldn't have done in too many places Upstate

[RShea]

Anyone have beta to share about Niagra Falls? I'll be there for work the last week of May.

Looking for good food. Good mountain bike trails to ride in the evenings.

I have a passport and can cross the border. Limited time though as I'll be working until n at least 1600 each day.

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You want the tourist report of stuff they do? Maid of the Mist boat ride, the Guinness World Record Museum, Some hiking in and around the State Parks - Whirlpool State Park along the Rim Trail, go to Goat Island on the US side, an Aquarium, and of course the Casinos if you are into that for a bit.

Restaurants can't comment as it has been a bit since I've been there and spent some time- obviously pre-pandemic. Ate at the US side Hard Rock Cafe, Canada side the Skylon Tower and revolving restaurant on the Canadian side has been a staple forever.

[riser4]

You want the tourist report of stuff they do? Maid of the Mist boat ride, the Guinness World Record Museum, Some hiking in and around the State Parks - Whirlpool State Park along the Rim Trail, go to Goat Island on the US side, an Aquarium, and of course the Casinos if you are into that for a bit.

Restaurants can't comment as it has been a bit since I've been there and spent some time- obviously pre-pandemic. Ate at the US side Hard Rock Cafe, Canada side the Skylon Tower and revolving restaurant on the Canadian side has been a staple forever.

Tim Hortons on the Canadian side.

[RShea]

Tim Hortons on the Canadian side.

Upstate has plenty of Tim Hortons also. Not sure if there is anything different about the Canadian operations (coffee the same, etc.) other than of course they were around and started first before moving into WNY and other parts of the US.

[riser4]

Upstate has plenty of Tim Hortons also. Not sure if there is anything different about the Canadian operations (coffee the same, etc.) other than of course they were around and started first before moving into WNY and other parts of the US.

They all suck. Nasty coffee and the "food" is if dubious nutritional value. However, if you are going to visit one, the best one is right by the falls on the Canadian side. At least it's got a stunning view. It was a brutally hot day and therefore thing#1 and I got iced coffees.

[CallMeAl]

I’ll be honest, first time seeing “Ontario Plains”. I like it.

Other than a few outliers, Jreck locations make a nice start to mapping this previously undocumented zone.

[riser4]

Other than a few outliers, Jreck locations make a nice start to mapping this previously undocumented zone.

I've never been to a Jreck. But I once ate at a DQ in Gananoque, ON.

[CallMeAl]

My wife is from Watertown and loves it, but you aren't missing anything IMO.

[m2711c]

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[m2711c]

yeah baby! Jrecks is full on upstates!

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josh knows whats up.

[gravitylover]

Jreck certainly fits the zone. I can't decide if I like it or what. I'll have to stop at one next week and see if eating there helps change my impression of the region. Good Ol' Wishy's in Croghan was a headstart to appreciating it.

[m2711c]

The food sucks. Straight up. Do not get the “tuna“.






fact.