The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

[ötzi]

I loved visiting the fort as a kid but felt very betrayed when I brought my kids and realized it was a rebuild/ replica.

ha, they had to, the locals stole the stones it was made out of when it was unoccupied.

[wooley12]

If you like Italian women.

7 miles down the road from Apalachin, New York, go figure. When IBM was ruling the roost there were more blonde office girls with Swedish and Dutch ancestors perhaps.

[Brownski]

This story seems pertinent to the discussion. On one hand it reinforces the rattlesnakes=upstate equation but it also shows how close Rockland County is to the city since the victim was evacuated by an NYPD helicopter to a city hospital.
http://hudsonvalley.news12.com/story/42300178/nypd-aviation-rescues-woman-bit-by-rattlesnake-in-harriman-state-park?

[DBdude]

For some reason I find it jarring when people refer to Ticonderoga as “Ti”.

every towny there calls it Ti

[ex-powderbroker]

This story seems pertinent to the discussion. On one hand it reinforces the rattlesnakes=upstate equation but it also shows how close Rockland County is to the city since the victim was evacuated by an NYPD helicopter to a city hospital.
http://hudsonvalley.news12.com/story/42300178/nypd-aviation-rescues-woman-bit-by-rattlesnake-in-harriman-state-park?

she was taken to nyack. proof cops are the worst right there.

[Brownski]

she was taken to nyack. proof cops are the worst right there.

I guess I didn’t read it closely enough. She went to Nyack first but ended up at Jacoby. Nyack hospital does kind of suck in my opinion but that may be a personal bias, as I’ve had bad experiences with them.

[Brownski]

every towny there calls it Ti

I know. I’m not saying they should stop. I can’t explain why I don’t like it. It just sounds gross to me, the way some people don’t like to hear “slack”, “moist” or “meal”. I know somebody that hates the word “pork” - and not just as a verb.

[ötzi]

A good friend is from Malone. I've been there a couple times. No matter how you slice it, Malone is upstate. Hell it's almost in Ontario.

[Danno]

What’s your ruling on Rockland County?

nobody ever answered you, which is kind of the answer. Rockland County is the bastard stepchild that nobody wants to claim and everyone ignores. It's almost kinda Jersey.

[Self Jupiter]

Western NY is defined as where people say "pop"

Holy fuck that’s accurate. What is with the way they say the word Italian?

[ex-powderbroker]

I guess I didn’t read it closely enough. She went to Nyack first but ended up at Jacoby. Nyack hospital does kind of suck in my opinion but that may be a personal bias, as I’ve had bad experiences with them.

I'd just be annoyed if they had already scooped me up in the chopper and then dropped me off halfway to home. Like a cabbie that doesn't want to cross the bridge to get you to the boroughs.

[Brownski]

I'd just be annoyed if they had already scooped me up in the chopper and then dropped me off halfway to home. Like a cabbie that doesn't want to cross the bridge to get you to the boroughs.

Helos and cops aside- regarding the cab situation, I feel your pain there. Multiple times I attempted to stage a sit-in protest in the back of a yellow cab that wouldn’t drive me back to the Bronx. Of course, every time my wife talked me out of it and secured alternative transportation. She’s so sensible.

[ex-powderbroker]

i have a remarkably similar story where my aunt prevented me from making a very large fool of myself trying to head to brooklyn. i think back and cringe, it was so bad and could have been so much worse. one of those things where sometimes even when you’re in the right, there are no winners. live and learn, i hope!

[Benny Profane]

Helos and cops aside- regarding the cab situation, I feel your pain there. Multiple times I attempted to stage a sit-in protest in the back of a yellow cab that wouldn’t drive me back to the Bronx. Of course, every time my wife talked me out of it and secured alternative transportation. She’s so sensible.

Hmmmm...just considering your handle here...are you a person of color?

[Brownski]

Hmmmm...just considering your handle here...are you a person of color?

No. I have an aunt that insists we’re 1/16 Native American but I’m pretty sure she’s full of shit. These were simple “I’m never gonna find a fare for the return trip up there” incidents.

i have a remarkably similar story where my aunt prevented me from making a very large fool of myself trying to head to brooklyn. i think back and cringe, it was so bad and could have been so much worse. one of those things where sometimes even when you’re in the right, there are no winners. live and learn, i hope!

Yeah, you nailed it. Hopefully I’ve learned something over the years. No guarantees though.

[BmillsSkier]

This actually begs the question: who is more better-equipped to determine what Upstate is?

The bridge and tunnel crowd?

Those actually living in the City (Manhattan only you poors)?

Those actually residing in points Upstate?

Western New Yorkers/Bills Mafioso/Ontario?

The TRG brain trust?

[ötzi]

the latter, duh

[Benny Profane]

This actually begs the question: who is more better-equipped to determine what Upstate is?

The bridge and tunnel crowd?

Those actually living in the City (Manhattan only you poors)?

Those actually residing in points Upstate?

Western New Yorkers/Bills Mafioso/Ontario?

The TRG brain trust?

Me

[Benny Profane]

No. I have an aunt that insists we’re 1/16 Native American but I’m pretty sure she’s full of shit. These were simple “I’m never gonna find a fare for the return trip up there” incidents.

Oh, ok, just asking. That's probably why you made it to the back seat. I drove a NYC taxi, and, yeah, outer borough trips sucked, so you avoided them big time. Gypsy territory.
If you wanted to fuck with the dude, never leave the cab and call the cops, just to waste his time. Take his number and report him. That actually works sometime.

[BmillsSkier]

Me

the latter, duh

The Iceman spoketh Benny, sorry.

[Ottime]

I don't make the rules, it's just geography.

And you are correct. So there is that.

[BmillsSkier]

Oh, ok, just asking. That's probably why you made it to the back seat. I drove a NYC taxi, and, yeah, outer borough trips sucked, so you avoided them big time. Gypsy territory.
If you wanted to fuck with the dude, never leave the cab and call the cops, just to waste his time. Take his number and report him. That actually works sometime.

I wonder, is this the genesis of the Gypsy Cab in Royal Tenenbaums, shot in Harlem?

[Ottime]

Maybe pre Wegmans? I think Wegmans united everybody. There was a bit of a rift between the American Niagara Falls and the Canadian Niagara Falls at one point.

There is a wegmans in NYC and in VA. All of that is now upstate NY.

[huckbucket]

There is a wegmans in NYC and in VA. All of that is now upstate NY.

Wegmans is a WESTERN NY brand. But still, we prefer you shop at your closest branch rather than make the pilgrimage to Brown Street (which is now a piece of shit diner).

[riser4]

This actually begs the question: who is more better-equipped to determine what Upstate is?

The bridge and tunnel crowd?

Those actually living in the City (Manhattan only you poors)?

Those actually residing in points Upstate?

Western New Yorkers/Bills Mafioso/Ontario?

The TRG brain trust?

Me. I can see the Adirondacks from my town. They are definitely not upstate. Upstate is south of here. :P