Predict the Post COVID-19 World

[Benny Profane]

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[Ted Striker]

In three years, first world countries will be back to business as usual. Some economic hangover, the rich won't necessarily get richer but the poor aren't getting anywhere. But that's about it.

You guys are some dark mother fuckers. Go outside and breathe.

This.

Although the doom and gloom is entertaining to read.

[topwater]

No, this time is different. There's already mile long food lines, and MILLIONS are going to be homeless. Unless the federal government jumps in and feeds and houses those millions directly, and fast. It's really bad.

I was telling somebody the other day about when I was working in Manhattan on 9/11. You could imagine the disruption. But, we were pretty much back to work in a few days, almost all of NYC. Wall Street was fucked up, but, most of us were back to grinding out a paycheck, under a cloud of fear and depression, but, the economy was churning. Now, my governor in Ct. just extended the shutdown to 5/20. How long is that? Two months? For the entire NYC metro? Just, turn off the spigot. And who knows after 5/20. I sure as shit ain't getting on a train and going down to mingle with the bodies down in Manhattan, and millions like me won't either, retired or working. So, we're talking about a severely damaged economy for, what, six months? Eight? A year? This has never happened before.

Bingo, and then think about cities and regions whose economy is totally dependent on tourism and travel (Orlando, Las Vegas). They are fucked well past the vaccine timeline as there will be a large percentage of people on the backside of this without money to spend on travel. Get used to the only restaurants surviving being corporate owned ones.

I hope I'm being overly pessimistic but I don't see how we re-open to any semblance of normal until everyone who wants a vaccine gets one.

[Ted Striker]

Get used to the only restaurants surviving being corporate owned ones.

IDK if it will be 100%, but sadly, this will be true for all that were just getting by before.

[Deebased]

No, you live in the trashier state next door. Live drunk and die.

Coming from the guy sucking down mad dog 20/20 and ditch weed.

Benny living bigly

[MiddleOfNight]

Wall Street:
Alternative A: Two things, working in tension:

-- People get a taste of $2 trillion burst of socialism and realize it aint so bad after all

-- Governors will gain more power as part of a move towards a new progressive federalism as people in NY, CA, WA, IL and other wealthy states realize the folly of collecting taxes in the blue states and shipping the money to anti-government red state hicks who berate the taxpayers up north who fund the Dixie dole.

Alternative B: Not much changes, just another socialistic bailout of big biz capitalism

A? Russians know about both.
Money on B.

In three years, first world countries will be back to business as usual. Some economic hangover, the rich won't necessarily get richer but the poor aren't getting anywhere. But that's about it.

100% agree.

[Benny Profane]

WASHINGTON—According to a new report published Wednesday by the Pew Research Center, you live in a deeply embarrassing and barely functional country. “Our latest research and statistical analysis shows that you are currently the citizen of an objectively humiliating nation wreathed in a miasma of pettiness, sloth, rank stupidity, and failure,” the report read in part, adding that this—this goddamned disgrace of a culture and system of government, if that’s what you call whatever the hell this is—is where you live, where you are from, and where you will likely die. “Decline and dysfunction are currently the first things people across the world think of when they hear the name of your place of origin, and, by association, these are the first words that would come to mind when they think of you as well.” The report concluded that there isn’t a whole hell of a lot you can do about it either.

[stuckathuntermtn]

I don't know a New Yorker who thinks upstates starts any further north than Yonkers.

Haha. I suppose for some that's true. Especially if you live way out in Brooklyn, like Bay Ridge or out in the Rockaways.


"Wherever they’s a fight so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever they’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. If Casy knowed, why, I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad an’ — I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry an’ they know supper’s ready. An’ when our folks eat the stuff they raise an’ live in the houses they build — why, I’ll be there. See?"

[Benny Profane]

Coming from the guy sucking down mad dog 20/20 and ditch weed.

Benny living bigly

Honest to God, I have never heard of Mad Dog 20/20. Is this some sort of libation they sell in your local gas station market? Do you wash your Twinkies down with it?

[Ted Striker]

It's for the white trash girlfriends.

[glademaster]

Honest to God, I have never heard of Mad Dog 20/20. Is this some sort of libation they sell in your local gas station market? Do you wash your Twinkies down with it?

Here ya go, Benny.

[Buster Highmen]

The financial gradient steepens, the Gini Index increases. More people drop off the end of the affordable goodies incline. But at what point will they wake up? How much is enough ? I wonder

In the near term, the biggest hit will be to transportation of food, people and goods because that's where humans need to congregate to move. In the long term, if that's replaced by more robots and mechanization, that's what will hit a bunch of the lower middle class hard. I'd say that's the fulcrum for social change.

Here we are in the middle of a pandemic, people dying locally and globally and we're still treating one another like shit. So, it can't be that bad yet. Or can it? Are we so fucking fractured and fatally avaricious that the threat amplifies the repulsion?

If society, local, national or global, hasn't fractured too far, this should pull us together. Has the butterfly flapped it wings? I keep thunking (past tense) not.

[swissiphic]

More of the same.

[AK47bp]

Honest to God, I have never heard of Mad Dog 20/20. Is this some sort of libation they sell in your local gas station market? Do you wash your Twinkies down with it?

Actually yes, but pairs best with Funyuns.


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[Benny Profane]

More of the same.

Yes, let them eat ice cream.

https://mobile.twitter.com/speakerpe...80704446238725

[m2711c]

ski areas already reopening....

https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/...-reopen-covid/



These guys open on april 14th...... who's up for a road trip?

https://aalski.no

[ill-advised strategy]

I thought that would be a good thing.

And this has hit me personally. For fucks sake. I have to wake up at dawn to do food shopping, wearing a mask. And that's the only place I go.

The underlying assumptions behind advocacy to return manufacturing to the US involved a pre-fascist vision of US manufacturing jobs...the ability of marginally-educated people to do straightforward, valuable, union work that could support a middle-class family lifestyle, retirement, healthcare, etc.

Instead, it will be just knocking us down so low that American labor is just as cheap and expendable as [anywhere else + shipping].

[dunfree]

Pretty much agree with the rest but just curious why you think the North East will be particularly affected.

because people were moving away already from the northeast & Midwest and I see acceleration of underlining trends. I mean, if the future is everyone liv8ng in the burbs, working from h8me, and dealing with Corp megachains, Texas & Florida have that covered better than anyone.

[ill-advised strategy]

Are we so fucking fractured and fatally avaricious that the threat amplifies the repulsion?

Yes.
100% yes.

[Self Jupiter]

[emoji444]The late king Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk on the telly
And I was like "who's bad?"
Sitting there smoking, sipping MD 20/20
Thinking I was the man
Mum's upset because I haven't given her a penny
But I just got a 20 bag
Mum don't stress, you know I told you already
I'mma do it for you and dad [emoji444]

[AK47bp]

More Purell dispensers everywhere, the plexiglass will stay up, there will be a new chunk of workers rights/healthcare laws.

Then in 4-6 years when this all happens again we’ll chastise leadership for not learning from our mistakes and do this same shit all over again.


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[ill-advised strategy]

We’re driving one person at a time, point-to-point on demand by appointment, with medium-duty buses (roughly school-bus size).
The politics of this are that we can’t strand people who depend on public transit.
The reality of my shifts lately has been a lot of driving out to the cheapest rural ghetto housing to bring workers into corporate fast food jobs.

So it’s like a 60 mile round trip, me making $16/hr, the bus burning 8 gallons of diesel, so McDonald’s and Walmart can continue not paying their labor enough to live near their job and/or afford their own means of transportation.
It’s probably at least $70 or $80 to the taxpayer to make one of those trips. That money should be paid directly to the workers as wages.
I can’t begin to understand why people have such a hard time grasping this, this stuff isn’t that complicated, but it proves so politically impossible to correct.

[glademaster]

Yes.
100% yes.

Agreed. The fact that someone had to ask that question reveals just how out of touch they are.

[AdironRider]

Honest to God, I have never heard of Mad Dog 20/20. Is this some sort of libation they sell in your local gas station market? Do you wash your Twinkies down with it?

Bunny drinks exclusively Boone's Farm.

[buttahflake]

Funyuns, man those things are gross. Haven’t thought about those things in years.