Predict the Post COVID-19 World

[Benny Profane]

I'm gonna go with revolution. maybe all this will finally will be enough.

ok I doubt it but it should happen

"Be careful what you hope for." (Trotsky)

[Benny Profane]

Exactly what should happen? Are you drinking right now?
Little dramatic, yeah?
Take a lap, you need some fresh air, boomer.

I'm going to drive up to Vermont and give you a big hug, turn around, and drive right back. I'll cough a few times too.

[Benny Profane]

There will be shanty towns and ghettos.
The rich will live in ultra secure, gated communities, with heavily armed guards.
Entrepreneurs will cater to the rich, with lots of security style businesses being set up.
Lots of armored up high end vehicles with bullet proof glass.
Systems and checks will be put in place to check your vitals as a first step in going through travel security.
In addition to your passport, you will need a health certificate, that will allow you to fly within a 24 hour time frame from receipt.
Only the rich and upper middle class will travel by plane.
Boutique PPE shops will sprout up, ala Starbucks, with the latest in PPE fashion. Scented hand sanitizers, and all sorts of other gimmicky crap for big dollars. The poor will bitch about the rich who can afford such luxuries, while everyone else is ordering cheap Chinese knock off from Amazon.
Skiing will be a sport for the rich.
Pro athletes will have to take a pay cut as no one goes to the games anymore.
There will be a whole new generation of young HS and college kids that go into health care.
The debt will crush multiple future generations. But the republicans will say deficits don't matter, and dems will want to raise taxes on the rich. The middle class will shrink to 1%, and they will be considered ass kissers to the rich.
The poor will grovel and bitch and complain about living in ghettos and shanty towns, and talking about the good old days under Donald J Trump.

So, most any Latin American society. Got it.

[MakersTeleMark]

I'd love to see Amazon and Walmart workers strike.

[Benny Profane]

I'd love to see Amazon and Walmart workers strike.

They did at Amazon. They got fired and insulted. There is no labor protection left in this country.

[buttahflake]

I'm going to drive up to Vermont and give you a big hug, turn around, and drive right back. I'll cough a few times too.

I would never live in Vermont, motherfucker.
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[riser4]

I would never live in Vermont, motherfucker.
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Thankfully.

[capulin overdrive]

How's everybody doing for food stocks?


I've been following this from the agriculture side. Meat Packing plants are slowly getting shut down here and there as they get cases with the workers.

Milk has been getting dumped mostly because they couldn't make shift from institutional packaging to retail packaging quick enough.

Hogs are at the point with plant closures that they're ready to start euthanizing the animals and dumping them.

Produce is getting dumped or plowed up, because they can't get their migrant workers.

Beef isn't going to waste yet, but packers aren't buying much, and supply is getting backed up on the hoof.


Anyways, my 2 cents is that nothing positive will come from this. Corps will eat bones of the failed small businesses, and we'll continue on with our march to Idiocracy.

Sadly as mentioned above, some of those with the means will move to places we love, and speed up the loved too death process.


It should be clear we need to work on health care, and localizing food supply, but it won't happen much if any.

[whyturn]

Suburbiconageedon. Big city exodus and prepper sales go up


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[Benny Profane]

I would never live in Vermont, motherfucker.
Laps

No, you live in the trashier state next door. Live drunk and die.

[Kinnikinnick]

This...probably true. As a HS coach of 2 sports....there will probably never be a post game handshake line......I wonder what it will evolve to...lol.

Thank god, especially those weird dicks with their vise handshakes. Yeah you can surprise me or act like this is a battle of manly handstrength and squish my hand, I also could have surprised you and kicked you in the nuts.


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[The Reverend Floater]

In three years, first world countries will be back to business as usual. Some economic hangover, the rich won't necessarily get richer but the poor aren't getting anywhere. But that's about it.

You guys are some dark mother fuckers. Go outside and breathe.

[ncskier]

How's everybody doing for food stocks?


I've been following this from the agriculture side. Meat Packing plants are slowly getting shut down here and there as they get cases with the workers.

Milk has been getting dumped mostly because they couldn't make shift from institutional packaging to retail packaging quick enough.

Hogs are at the point with plant closures that they're ready to start euthanizing the animals and dumping them.

Produce is getting dumped or plowed up, because they can't get their migrant workers.

Beef isn't going to waste yet, but packers aren't buying much, and supply is getting backed up on the hoof.


Anyways, my 2 cents is that nothing positive will come from this. Corps will eat bones of the failed small businesses, and we'll continue on with our march to Idiocracy.

Sadly as mentioned above, some of those with the means will move to places we love, and speed up the loved too death process.


It should be clear we need to work on health care, and localizing food supply, but it won't happen much if any.

Here in North Carolina, , major center of poultry and pork processing, the plants are going to direct sales to consumers.
https://www.houseofraeford.com/news/...hicken-demand/

Selling boneless skinless chicken breasts, thighs, tenders etc for $1 lb. they pack in 40 lb cardboard. They put in your trunk you hand them $40 cash.

Sprouting up all over the place with different producers. Eggs too. If I had more room in the chest freezer I’d load up. I may buy a few hundred pounds for the Charlotte rescue mission.

[MakersTeleMark]

The local ranchers are crushing it selling out of parking lots at crazy prices to folks who want to support small businesses while Safeway is marking shit down 30%.

[Cono Este]

I’m curious how long it took to adjust to life after polio or measles. I don’t think it will be instant and it’s obviously going to take awhile just to get a vaccine. Until then, probably 1-2 yrs earliest, people will not be hitting movie theaters, bars vegas etc like they used to.

I will not be tolerating my usual restaurants wiping down tables with the same dirty rags.




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[Ottime]

Only thing I'm pretty sure of right now is I'll come out of this thing fatter. Other than that, too hard to tell yet.

[dunfree]

Yeah, but, the carnage it creates in those two years. AirBnB gone. Restaraunts gone. Well, high end will bounce back, but mid level family stuff gone. Hotels stumbling up off the mat. Many closed permanently. Airlines probably back to public utilities, so, bye bye cheap flights.

museums, musicians , concert venues, sports, colleges, many taking huge hits to the bottom line right now too.

My predictions
-move away from North East accelerated
-move to secondary/tertiary city’s accelerated

Maybe
-short term focus on health/cleanliness safety sticks, people realize incumbents did shit for a reason
-shift to suburbia accelerated

Hope
-focus on civic engagement (dreaming)

[Benny Profane]

I’m curious how long it took to adjust to life after polio or measles. I don’t think it will be instant and it’s obviously going to take awhile just to get a vaccine. Until then, probably 1-2 yrs earliest, people will not be hitting movie theaters, bars vegas etc like they used to.

I will not be tolerating my usual restaurants wiping down tables with the same dirty rags.




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That's a good point. As a child at the time measles and polio were stopped with vaccines, I'd say it was pretty quick back to "normal". Pools were opened for as long as I can remember. But those weren't total societal lockdowns like this. The fact that the economy is just being shut down all over will be with us for a long time.

[Timberridge]

I'm going to drive up to Vermont and give you a big hug, turn around, and drive right back. I'll cough a few times too.

Save a trip and just send Buttah some nude pictures of yourself in your Full Tilts.

[S_jenks]

Things will be much the same after a vaccine is developed. We will prepare for the last disaster and not be prepared for the next one

This, at least in North America. People will yearn so much for 'the time before' once things calm down that many of the lessons learned will be swept away.

And civil disobedience? Pffff, the most fighting people are willing to do these days is on-line. As long as the interwebz stays up and going, people are going to be too comfortable in their digital space.

Unless you lose your home (and Internet access). The homeless problem will worsen for sure, but they'll still be easily forgotten by the public when the next news cycle hits.

Backcountry skiing will continue it's rapid-growth in new users, especially when the Trump checks come in the mail.

[Benny Profane]

No, this time is different. There's already mile long food lines, and MILLIONS are going to be homeless. Unless the federal government jumps in and feeds and houses those millions directly, and fast. It's really bad.

I was telling somebody the other day about when I was working in Manhattan on 9/11. You could imagine the disruption. But, we were pretty much back to work in a few days, almost all of NYC. Wall Street was fucked up, but, most of us were back to grinding out a paycheck, under a cloud of fear and depression, but, the economy was churning. Now, my governor in Ct. just extended the shutdown to 5/20. How long is that? Two months? For the entire NYC metro? Just, turn off the spigot. And who knows after 5/20. I sure as shit ain't getting on a train and going down to mingle with the bodies down in Manhattan, and millions like me won't either, retired or working. So, we're talking about a severely damaged economy for, what, six months? Eight? A year? This has never happened before.

[LeeLau]

Ultimately reality state vs state civil war!

[BmillsSkier]

No, this time is different. There's already mile long food lines, and MILLIONS are going to be homeless. Unless the federal government jumps in and feeds and houses those millions directly, and fast. It's really bad.

I was telling somebody the other day about when I was working in Manhattan on 9/11. You could imagine the disruption. But, we were pretty much back to work in a few days, almost all of NYC. Wall Street was fucked up, but, most of us were back to grinding out a paycheck, under a cloud of fear and depression, but, the economy was churning. Now, my governor in Ct. just extended the shutdown to 5/20. How long is that? Two months? For the entire NYC metro? Just, turn off the spigot. And who knows after 5/20. I sure as shit ain't getting on a train and going down to mingle with the bodies down in Manhattan, and millions like me won't either, retired or working. So, we're talking about a severely damaged economy for, what, six months? Eight? A year? This has never happened before.

Benny I love ya, but this is FULL EEYORE.

Also, do you really ski Full Tilts?

Also, also, does the NYC metro still include DC? Charlotte?

[Lvovsky]

It’s not going to be Hunger Games. Too soon for Mad Max. Moving closer to 1984 with everyone installing cameras and microphones in their home. Blade Runner would be nice.

Instead we will get a recession for a bit, face masks, temperature measurements, consolidations, takeovers, wealth inequality growth on steroids, bunch of stupid policies, rise of e-sports, may be a social unrest or two somewhere in the world.

[XXX-er]

so locally the town and some business folks got together and housed the all the downtown homeless,

https://www.interior-news.com/news/s...ss-population/

i'm not sure where they put the camp but they put up 5 industrial strength camp style tents, a 6th one to cook in, a porta potty and all the homeless in town are now housed