Predict the Post COVID-19 World

[Iowagriz]

Corporate America will embrace the work from home model and save money on rent.
Corporate peeps will wonder why they live in major metros when they can work from home anywhere.
Mass exodus from the cities for those that can WFH to the burbs and mountain states.
Boise, Missoula, Spokane and many other smaller areas grow exponentially, which allows business to grow with it (but it will mostly be services jobs to host the new money working from home)
The downtown of major cities become even more blight ridden and the homeless population increases within them. Becoming zombie wastelands of tent cities, drugs and eventually police states within.

[XXX-er]

This...probably true. As a HS coach of 2 sports....there will probably never be a post game handshake line......I wonder what it will evolve to...lol.

5 yars ago I went to shake hands with a former MD, instead we did the elbow bump which suprised me then but it was a precursor for the future

[snowaddict91]

Something my wife and I were talking about earlier is what could happen to the ski industry if we have another wave next winter. We could see many ski areas and related businesses bankrupt and shuttered. The impact could be severe in small mountain towns and push many residents away. I hope we don't have to find out.

[GeezerSteve]

but universal HC ... no way !

A new progressive federalism may be the most plausible route to universal HC in the next 10 or so years. That's not entirely new thinking. Now maybe there's a new opportunity: Post-Covid recovery pacts of CA/OR/WA and NY/MA/CT/NJ/DE/RI could band together and create a HC system, maybe with non-profit carriers. In the U.S., insurance has been traditionally regulated by the states. It'd be fun to watch the GOP argue for federal preemption of insurance coverage.

[east or bust]

Could the current state of affairs actually promote small business start ups in a couple months from now?

[snowaddict91]

Could the current state of affairs actually promote small business start ups in a couple months from now?

For people who are sitting on money right now, I think so. Although food service, tourism, etc. may be rough to break into.

Another factor will be a reduction in travel, tourism, and overall spending money while people recover financially. I think the tourism industry is going to be rough for the next several years. Hopefully that means shorter lift lines!

[Mofro261]

No more trips to grandma's house?

[XXX-er]

A new progressive federalism may be the most plausible route to universal HC in the next 10 or so years. That's not entirely new thinking. Now maybe there's a new opportunity: Post-Covid recovery pacts of CA/OR/WA and NY/MA/CT/NJ/DE/RI could band together and create a HC system, maybe with non-profit carriers. In the U.S., insurance has been traditionally regulated by the states. It'd be fun to watch the GOP argue for federal preemption of insurance coverage.

I was being a bit factitious but do americans really understand the word " universal " conversations I have had on-line would indicate not ?

if its universal then everybody even the fat guys get it so why do you need an insurance company ?

just pay the MD direct

[skiing-in-jackson]

Cash is bad. All funds digitized.

[GeezerSteve]

if its universal then everybody even the fat guys get it so why do you need an insurance company?

Germany, The Netherlands, Switzerland, France, Belgium and Japan have multi-payer universal HC with payments largely managed by non-profit insurance carriers. Single payer is not the only form of universal HC.

[goldenboy]

This...probably true. As a HS coach of 2 sports....there will probably never be a post game handshake line......I wonder what it will evolve to...lol.

Even before this, I think half the people in the handshake line in my town league hockey would leave their gloves on and just do a fist bump. That'll be the new norm for sure.

[XXX-er]

Germany, The Netherlands, Switzerland, France, Belgium and Japan have multi-payer universal HC with payments largely managed by non-profit insurance carriers. Single payer is not the only form of universal HC.

ok so how many Americans understand the concept ?

[stuckathuntermtn]

I hope people can work from home more and travel less for business.

[digitaldeath]

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[iceman]

I'm gonna go with revolution. maybe all this will finally will be enough.

ok I doubt it but it should happen

[buttahflake]

I'm gonna go with revolution. maybe all this will finally will be enough.

ok I doubt it but it should happen

Exactly what should happen? Are you drinking right now?
Little dramatic, yeah?
Take a lap, you need some fresh air, boomer.

[Core Shot]

Cash is bad. All funds digitized.

That’s a big part of the master tinfoil plan.

Or at least eliminating the Untaxable cash market.

But I like cash. It’s filthy and dirty but it’s tangible.

[PB]

...... It'd be fun to watch the GOP argue for federal preemption of insurance coverage.

You have a twisted sense of humor.

I like it.


Oh, and Baby Boom take 2.

[Self Jupiter]

[Toadman]

There will be shanty towns and ghettos.
The rich will live in ultra secure, gated communities, with heavily armed guards.
Entrepreneurs will cater to the rich, with lots of security style businesses being set up.
Lots of armored up high end vehicles with bullet proof glass.
Systems and checks will be put in place to check your vitals as a first step in going through travel security.
In addition to your passport, you will need a health certificate, that will allow you to fly within a 24 hour time frame from receipt.
Only the rich and upper middle class will travel by plane.
Boutique PPE shops will sprout up, ala Starbucks, with the latest in PPE fashion. Scented hand sanitizers, and all sorts of other gimmicky crap for big dollars. The poor will bitch about the rich who can afford such luxuries, while everyone else is ordering cheap Chinese knock off from Amazon.
Skiing will be a sport for the rich.
Pro athletes will have to take a pay cut as no one goes to the games anymore.
There will be a whole new generation of young HS and college kids that go into health care.
The debt will crush multiple future generations. But the republicans will say deficits don't matter, and dems will want to raise taxes on the rich. The middle class will shrink to 1%, and they will be considered ass kissers to the rich.
The poor will grovel and bitch and complain about living in ghettos and shanty towns, and talking about the good old days under Donald J Trump.

[Benny Profane]

I doubt things like travel will be affected much in the long term. Travel will be down for the next couple years, but I think it will slowly get back up to post COVID levels, especially after a vaccine is available.

Yeah, but, the carnage it creates in those two years. AirBnB gone. Restaraunts gone. Well, high end will bounce back, but mid level family stuff gone. Hotels stumbling up off the mat. Many closed permanently. Airlines probably back to public utilities, so, bye bye cheap flights.

[MontuckyFried]

High fives will be as Demolition Man predicted:

[Benny Profane]

Look and Marker finally go out of business (thank goodness), Tyrolia and Salomon dominate.

Micol begins producing a new line Covid resistant ski jackets infused with silver coated threads. He becomes so rich he buys WL Gore, and a AMG.

The rest of you continue to post in the PR blaming the rich and others, commiserating with one another about your lot in life while smoking weed and popping antidepressants.

I do edibles washed down with good red wine.

[garyfromterrace]

There will be shanty towns and ghettos.
The rich will live in ultra secure, gated communities, with heavily armed guards.
Entrepreneurs will cater to the rich, with lots of security style businesses being set up.
Lots of armored up high end vehicles with bullet proof glass.
Systems and checks will be put in place to check your vitals as a first step in going through travel security.
In addition to your passport, you will need a health certificate, that will allow you to fly within a 24 hour time frame from receipt.
Only the rich and upper middle class will travel by plane.
Boutique PPE shops will sprout up, ala Starbucks, with the latest in PPE fashion. Scented hand sanitizers, and all sorts of other gimmicky crap for big dollars. The poor will bitch about the rich who can afford such luxuries, while everyone else is ordering cheap Chinese knock off from Amazon.
Skiing will be a sport for the rich.
Pro athletes will have to take a pay cut as no one goes to the games anymore.
There will be a whole new generation of young HS and college kids that go into health care.
The debt will crush multiple future generations. But the republicans will say deficits don't matter, and dems will want to raise taxes on the rich. The middle class will shrink to 1%, and they will be considered ass kissers to the rich.
The poor will grovel and bitch and complain about living in ghettos and shanty towns, and talking about the good old days under Donald J Trump.

Sad but my feeling too. Thanks for putting that into words for me...

[Benny Profane]

I think this may be a peak for large cities like the ones you listed. But this may actually drive growth in small and medium cities as people move from, say, San Francisco to Bozeman. At the same time, the people most able to move will be upper middle class and above, with jobs that can be performed remotely. That might make large cities a little more livable, as some of the higher income residents move away, but it will wreak havoc in small cities whose housing markets get completely hosed by people spending their SF salaries to buy Bozeman property. Companies that allow you to go fulltime remote will want to adjust salaries to your local cost of living, but that will be a hard sell and I'd be surprised if any employer gets much traction with that.

So Outside magazine sells more subscriptions as the fantasy becomes even more real.