Official ATK Binding Thread

[plugboots]

Haven’t looked at their site in a bit. Really bummed they got rid of the front binding unit. Ima go look for some unsold ones.

[JRainey]

When are we gonna learn about the Freeride binding?

Repairability good... sustainability? Mostly a load of crap. I get that every company wants to do their share, but how 'bought we just make good ski shit. I'm all for more aluminum though, but if skis get shittier because they want to use 15% less epoxy it seems like it's probably not worth it. Maybe I'm short sighted, but when I hear, "The story this year is sustainability...." makes me cringe. Drop in the ocean.

Also, locking the toe for fear of death on steep and hard terrain does improve retention. When the skis get rattled off in those situations, it's a lateral release, which locking the toes solves. For forward release it doesn't help, but most people lock the toes because of incidents of lateral pre release. I ski with unlocked toes (with no leashes) almost 100% of the time, but sometimes I'm not gonna risk it.

[~mikey b]

you’ll learn more about the freeride binding soon - I’m as much of a skeptic as you are and they seem legit - seems like they’re doing what they can do to keep the manufacturing process as “sustainable” as possible - when a factory makes more electricity with it’s solar system than it uses that seems meaningful to me

I haven’t even skied the bindings yet but it’s plain to see that they are a damn good product and they are damn good sales people - I drank the kool aid



kinda reminds me of when a guy named Russell was showing us a new telemark binding, telling us he was going to change the industry standard - we skied it and broke it and he fixed it and improved it over and over - and look where that got us

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and if you or anyone else feels better skiing with your toes locked then you should do that

[kamtron]

Sweet info, Mikey. This validates my use of silicone (learned from my friend at Pro Ski North Bend). Going to look for a certified shop for the next mount

[~mikey b]

right on

[JRainey]

No, I love ATK, and you can tell they have the enthusiast spirit that is lacking in the leadership of other major binding companies.

And you can pry the epoxy from my cold dead hands...

[~mikey b]

yeah I’ve always mostly used epoxy myself

when I was doing a lot of mounts at home for folks I would give them the option of epoxy, titebond, or silicone

they all work

but when ATK tells me that they use silicone for the skimo race team and that they remove and remount bindings on race skis multiple times per season using silicone I figure they’re probably onto something

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[Westcoaster]

Silicone sucks for use cases other than their skimo or race ski wax protocols. There's really no alternative to epoxy for moisture resistance for heavy backcountry usage.

[~mikey b]

and some folks swear by Gorilla Glue

[Benneke10]

Why are they removing and reinstalling bindings on race skis multiple times a season? Easier travel?

[~mikey b]

that’s the question I asked - why?

service & repair

[Jonathan S.]

Why are they removing and reinstalling bindings on race skis multiple times a season? Easier travel?

that’s the question I asked - why?

service & repair

I have a few pairs of Hagan race skis on which I've done this many times to service some ancient Dynafit heels that are prone to seizing up (but can be disassembled upon removal from the ski), to swap bindings (in the same holes), and to create complete workable bindings from partially workable sets.
I always use GE Silcone II glue (not caulk) on those skis.
The Hagan race ski internal mounting plate is so strong that I've done this probably at least a dozen times on one pair of my Hagan race skis, with zero spinners.

[Benneke10]

I’m surprised that top racers need to service and repair regularly since I assume they use new equipment every year. I’ve encountered bindings that need service but typically they have seen years worth of dust, mud and grit

[~mikey b]

racers ski harder than you

thanks Jon

[Fred Pabst]

Is there an ATK model that you would consider as a sidecountry/cross over binding like the Shift?

[Spyderjon]

Is there an ATK model that you would consider as a sidecountry/cross over binding like the Shift?

Press release due in Nov with a soft launch due end of this season and then full sales from autumn 25. That's as much as my NDA allows me to say.

[~mikey b]

Press release due in Nov with a soft launch due end of this season and then full sales from autumn 25. That's as much as my NDA allows me to say.

that’s what I was told last week

that’s the game changer

ATK will do it right

[Benneke10]

racers ski harder than you

I don’t doubt it. Ive skied with high level skimo racers who have competed at the World Cup level and haven’t heard of them dealing with binding problems so I’m curious what problems they encounter. I would imagine the problems they encounter are not often repairable but I really don’t know and Id like to learn more.

[~mikey b]

I dunno

that’s just what they told me when I asked why

[turnfarmer]

I would speculate removing bindings makes it easier to stone grind/change structure for varying conditions. No it a tech though so could be wrong.

[Spyderjon]

that’s what I was told last week

that’s the game changer

ATK will do it right

mikey b, did you see the pics?

And no new jig needed either

[~mikey b]

I didn’t

[~mikey b]

read the thread

[ASmileyFace]

Has BD's ATK distribution come to an end? I don't see any new season bindings on BD's site. Anyone got any info?

All the BD pro deals cried out in unison

[rigbone]

Looking for some insight on differences between Haute Route 10 and Haute Route Plus. I saw on Skimo co that the toe pieces are different on the new Plus model as well as them having the dual magnetic heel risers. Is it worth going with the Plus for the extra dough (I can get the standards on sale, about one fiddy less than the Plus). Do the standards only have one heel riser? Judging by pics of them it appears they have two??

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