Official ATK Binding Thread

[CaliBrit]

Doh! wished i caught this before i took the plunge. I was keying in on a plum pika from tp, then i found a kuluar 12 from Alpinstore that ended up 50+cad cheaper with the code "newsletter" you get when you sign up for their newsletter. I was thinking id add a crampon later. Have you added a toe riser?

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No toe riser.

I’ve actually had quite a few emails with Italy and US customer service.

I’m given to understand if you trust they got it right, put it in place and crank the screws it will pop in correctly.

So my comment is probably invalid. It’s still not as nice of a part as the crampon biker on the monolink toe.

[grinch]

No toe riser.

I’ve actually had quite a few emails with Italy and US customer service.

I’m given to understand if you trust they got it right, put it in place and crank the screws it will pop in correctly.

So my comment is probably invalid. It’s still not as nice of a part as the crampon biker on the monolink toe.

Thanks Brit. Good news on both topics. Ill try it w/o the riser first. Im thinking i mighf need to add some. Heel and track look similar to my raiders and the toe looks low. I ended up putting some risers on my raiders and i prefer them. Id rather just be lower at the toe and heel though so we'll see how they feel

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[CaliBrit]

Thanks Brit. Good news on both topics. Ill try it w/o the riser first. Im thinking i mighf need to add some. Heel and track look similar to my raiders and the toe looks low. I ended up putting some risers on my raiders and i prefer them. Id rather just be lower at the toe and heel though so we'll see how they feel

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I measured my FR14 and Kuluar.

Identical heel to toe pin delta.

Review on Kuluar soon once I’ve had them out again but with the freeride spacer they ski just fine.

[grinch]

Thanks again. I didnt find them to ski bad without. I guess im just used go the flatter delta after having rusers on a few dfits, ions and vipecs.
Im trying to mount a touch forward on the ski i have the kuluars for and like Climber Joes suggestion that the riser helps that a bit. I feel i could move 1 cm forward on my bg tours and might do that after. Im still experimenting. The mount on both skis would still be relatively directional. Just a little more swivel as long as the tips dont dive i figure. Baby steps

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[ezgzy]

Is the kuluar compatible with the al09 or are you using the universal spacer?


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[Benneke10]

Is the kuluar compatible with the al09 or are you using the universal spacer?

It is not compatible with the AL09. The AL09 only works with the Raider series.

[grinch]

Is the kuluar compatible with the al09 or are you using the universal spacer?


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I have no idea

It is not compatible with the AL09. The AL09 only works with the Raider series.

Any ideas on which one?

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[CaliBrit]

al09 works with regular newer raider series FR14, R12 etc. al13 works with evo series.

al05 and al06 are universal freeride spacers with the al05 having a lower minimum height by 2-3 mm.

[grinch]

Cool, cheers. al06 ftw

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[CaliBrit]

Cool, cheers. al06 ftw

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Yeah. As long as it fits under your boot.

[tang]

Apologies, as I'm sure this has been asked, but coudnt find anything with a bit of scrolling... On FR14s, ok to run without the al09 spacer, leaving that slight gap in front of the front screws? Or is there some little piece (that I lost) that should slot under? I've got inserts, so it's easy to run w/ or w/o the spacer.
Thx

[CaliBrit]

Apologies, as I'm sure this has been asked, but coudnt find anything with a bit of scrolling... On FR14s, ok to run without the al09 spacer, leaving that slight gap in front of the front screws? Or is there some little piece (that I lost) that should slot under? I've got inserts, so it's easy to run w/ or w/o the spacer.
Thx

Like the R12?

[tang]

Like the R12?

It’s the freeraider 14, but it’s prob just like the r12 - it’s raised a bit in the front to accept the al09 spacer hooks underneath. The raised bit isn’t on the actual mount interface… so I guessing ok, just will pack in with some snow is all. Prob won’t die?

[HAB]

It’s the freeraider 14, but it’s prob just like the r12 - it’s raised a bit in the front to accept the al09 spacer hooks underneath. The raised bit isn’t on the actual mount interface… so I guessing ok, just will pack in with some snow is all. Prob won’t die?

There is a little spacer that goes there. Will you die if you don't use it? No idea.

[tang]

^^^ Thx, kinda remember that. But no idea where I put it

[CaliBrit]

It’s the freeraider 14, but it’s prob just like the r12 - it’s raised a bit in the front to accept the al09 spacer hooks underneath. The raised bit isn’t on the actual mount interface… so I guessing ok, just will pack in with some snow is all. Prob won’t die?

Yeah what I mean its how the R12 comes. But normally yea the space under the heel piece has a little space filler.

[tang]

^^^ got it, will dig some more in the parts drawer

[CaliBrit]

^^^ got it, will dig some more in the parts drawer

If you are really bothered and don’t have one let me know. It’s probably $1 postage!

[upallnight]

Apologies, as I'm sure this has been asked, but coudnt find anything with a bit of scrolling... On FR14s, ok to run without the al09 spacer, leaving that slight gap in front of the front screws? Or is there some little piece (that I lost) that should slot under? I've got inserts, so it's easy to run w/ or w/o the spacer.
Thx

Sure. I think the risk is really that snow (or worse, water) could occupy that space. Over time, melt/freeze cycles could exert some force on the heel piece and cause issues.

Imagine that is low probability and likely minimized if you dry your skis out after a session/tour. Over years could be an issue.

Yeah what I mean its how the R12 comes. But normally yea the space under the toe piece has a little space filler.

Why are toe pieces coming into that? Do you mean the front of the heel, rather than toe?

[upallnight]

Doh! wished i caught this before i took the plunge. I was keying in on a plum pika from tp, then i found a kuluar 12 from Alpinstore that ended up 50+cad cheaper with the code "newsletter" you get when you sign up for their newsletter. I was thinking id add a crampon later. Have you added a toe riser?

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I've had many does on numerous models of ATK bindings (Trofeo, C-Raider, R10... or was it RT10, and I think one other). Have had no issues with crampon mounts on any of them. I wouldn't worry about it.

I've also shimmed all the models that are not flat (after a couple season of skiing them all as-is), and I have a heel adjustment plate under the Trofeos — such that all are about +6 delta.

My point is that crampons have not been an issue even with the toe shims.

[CaliBrit]

Sure. I think the risk is really that snow (or worse, water) could occupy that space. Over time, melt/freeze cycles could exert some force on the heel piece and cause issues.

Imagine that is low probability and likely minimized if you dry your skis out after a session/tour. Over years could be an issue.




Why are toe pieces coming into that? Do you mean the front of the heel, rather than toe?

Mistake. Edited.

[grinch]

I've had many does on numerous models of ATK bindings (Trofeo, C-Raider, R10... or was it RT10, and I think one other). Have had no issues with crampon mounts on any of them. I wouldn't worry about it.

I've also shimmed all the models that are not flat (after a couple season of skiing them all as-is), and I have a heel adjustment plate under the Trofeos — such that all are about +6 delta.

My point is that crampons have not been an issue even with the toe shims.

Thanks. Thats great to hear

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[pembyguy]

Received this beauties today! Came with the toe shim in the box.


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Evo's in da house! I can only imagine what theyre going on

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[CaliBrit]

PSA oliunid has extra 10% off damn good euro prices right now. Cheap shipping too.