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Thread: Official ATK Binding Thread

  1. #2626
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    those guys know their shit
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    Heel play

    I tried a search, but did not see anything definitive. I have a pair of raider heels. I recently remounted them to new skis. The problem likely preexisted, but only noted it after the remount. One heel the binding moves easily forward and back as if the compensation spring was no longer functional. Anyone encountered this, is there a fix? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBABUCKS1 View Post
    looks like i'm headed to skimoco on wed. Thanks!
    let us know what they say
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    So if anyone cares the toe that refused to open up was a broken plastic piece that is below (on surface towards the ball of foot) the lever. I got the old part back and couldn't find any obvious deformity so I'm not sure what happened.

    At skimoco there is an ATK employee there that basically fixes atk bindings all day. Or at least that's how he explained it to me. Wild that it's a thing but I sure was happy to have my binding fixed in 10 mins. His name is Will, great guy. Really lucky to have him and that service in SLC.

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    glad you got taken care of
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    Does anyone know if there is a spec of acceptable diameter loss on u springs? I doubt mine are worn to the point of needing replacement, but figured I’d try to check. Trofeo 10s if it matters.

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    Not going to attempt to quote myself, but wanted to follow up. Wrote to atk and the problem was the adjustment screw. Bindings had passed the warranty period, but a replacement part was relatively inexpensive and mailed out promptly. Replacement was straight forward and the binding is again functioning as it should. Cheers to atk for having serviceable bindings and replacement parts.

  8. #2633
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    Great to hear! I've had warranty work done by ATK in SLC, fast and free. Their toes can sometimes be rebuilt/fixed depending on the issue, but the heels are totally serviceable and rebuildable.

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    yeah that’s good
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    Need some advice - ready to pay up for the svelte lightness of ATK bindings but very unsure of which will suit my use case best.
    These are going on Renoun Citadel 106s, currently mounted w Tectons (set at release value of 8), boot is Transalp Pro. Tectons have been fine (occasional icing issues but no more serious problems)
    Use case:
    60% mellow VT tree skiing
    20% resort fitness laps or bypassing wind holds commonplace after big storms lately
    20% bigger days in the Presi's - this is where I really notice the extra weight of the Tectons, but also where I am skiing the steepest terrain and most variable snow.

    It seems like if I go with something from the Raider lineup it should be a Freeraider (little weight penalty to get the better boot-ski connection) with the evo system (seems like much less hassle, no downside?). But should I go simpler/lighter with the RT 11, Haute Raute, Kuluar, or even Crest?? Brakes would be nice but not mandatory.
    SO many option...

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    If you’re jumping or going real fast, FreeRaider Evo. They also have lots of risers. 410g

    If more conservative, Kuluar 12. I’ve had good success with them on Ravens but need some more time for full review. No brakes. 250gish.


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    im a beater but fr 15 evo is fucking sick and i happily trade 170 grams to have 100% confidence in everything

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    I'll just add that I would ensure whichever model you choose make sure they have the freeride spacer. Makes a huge difference in my opinion.

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    If you're looking to shave weight off the Tectons at DIN 8, pretty much any binding will work for you. I run the older Kuluar with the length compensation spring and they seem very solid with good retention. I personally do not see the need for the spacer or heavier-duty models. Having rotating pins (like on the Crest) is nice compared to the u-spring, but they all work.

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    Lightest one which will work with the freeride spacer is the Crest (2025)However since you're from the US you will probably want to shim the toe. ATK sells some (speed toe shim or something like that, for the Crest toe).Or with the FR15 EVO the shim is included.If skiing variable snow, since it's a "wide" ski at 106mm, a freeride spacer makes sense.

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    Does anyone else feel that Freeride spacer is crazy heavy for what it does? I have a ATK universal spacer on my Haute Routes and it was a small weight penalty. However, when I went to purchase a freeride spacer for my Raider Evo 13s, the weight and price ($149 CAD?) made me slide it back across the counter. And it probably adds 1-2mm to the already highish heel.

    If I just bought a Freeraider 15 originally, I would probably accept the weight penalty.

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    29 grams doesnt feel crazy heavy to me. It dosent adds any height.

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    Plus, it’s a pretty cool designed sliding self-centering plate, so there’s some cool engineering inside. It’s not just a brick of Teflon.
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    For your use case I would not recommend the Freeraider. The RT Evo 11 is more than enough, and frankly I think the Haute Route 10+ would be more than enough if you ski at an 8.

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    For me, there is no better 29g spent than that little sliding piece of plastic underfoot. It makes the ski feel wildly more supportive - no spacer feels like I cannot load the back half of the ski without it just looping out. Also doesnt add any stack height when skiing. It does keep you a few mm away from truly flat mode when skinning if thats what you were talking about

  22. #2647
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    Just like everything ATK, the different spacer options are dizzying. Skimo.co sells three different ATK spacers, and this doesn't even include the universal one:

    https://skimo.co/atk-binding-parts

    The spacer I was referencing (which is not the one that comes on the Freeraider) is referred to as the Classic Freeride Spacer or AL16, weighs 45grams and adds 2mm stack height to the heel.

  23. #2648
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    Ah yeah this one. It's for the older Crest with one climbing aid. For the newer Crest with 2 climbing aids you need the normal spacer.

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