It does look fun and I’ve liked everything else that Derek has built around here. He usually does a good job of leaving rocks on the trail. I bet it will be cool. I also liked the little bit of other trails I’ve ridden in that area too.
In other news this has got to be the best time of the year for riding in PC. A beautiful Saturday evening and only 5 cars in the lot. Obviously it’s because there’s nothing to ride and it’s all covered in snow.
Last edited by dfinn; 05-16-2020 at 11:21 PM.
52 cars at a local trailhead at 8am today. I used to groan when there were more than a handful of cars there. I'm ready for the mo's to go back to church.
The police did come monitoring and 2/3 of the cars at PC trail heads were from the valley. I was really surprised by that. That said, I haven’t driven to a local ride this year, so maybe that skews the numbers?
WTF?? It's definitely going to help in the winter with all the parking available around PC...
Speaking of trails covered in snow, I got a bit too excited yesterday and went for a loop that is going to need a few more weeks of high temps to be worth a visit. By then the brush will have fully taken it over and it will be a different battle. Got to eat shit and slide down snowfields which trying to kick steps with the bike on my back, good times... Nice recon though, scenic as hell, fun adventure riding with lots of jank and no people. Kinda brutal on the up, it convinced me to try a smaller chainring instead of pushing too many teeth spinning at 45 rpms. And yes, I did try to ride across that pond and it went just about as well as you'd expect.
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Park Record article from last year: https://www.parkrecord.com/news/vail...ovo-developer/
In Vail's defense, this has been in the works for decades. It will be interesting to see what the proposed “improved access to public parking” entails.
Nice shots. GWT in the Big Mtn Pass area?
Flying dog is now directional, which explains some dirty looks I've received having no idea this was the case until now.
Thank Dog! CCW I hope?
Damn it. If something is too good to be true....
Crazy. Getting rid of the main lot at the base of the resort seems like a giant clusterfuck in the making.
Yes, GWT from the top of MoPi, made it most of the way around the ridgeline to the E facing slopes below Lookout and decided to spare myself the 4 miles of postholing to get back to what I call Cat o' nine tail ridge and back to the summit of Emigration.
Re: Flying Dog, I love the idea of alternating directions of travel based on days of the week. It's a rad downhill but it doesn't suck to climb back up it either.
The alternating days of travel work in other places, but yeah. I've also seen hiker/horses allowed odd days and bike even days work well in other spots, but again, little faith.
Sardine trail (the location of the aforementioned 50+ cars in the lot) is a natural for one way traffic, and the locals have been screaming for it on social media. But the FS and the local trail group is anti for some reason. My personal rumor mill theory is so that they can get enough negative trail interactions to close it to bikes completely.
To be fair I still can't get the Millcreek bike days straight. Is odd day OK to ride or off leash? Even the mnemonics fail me...
I ended up poaching the canyon on a weekday last summer, didn't see anyone until I started climbing back up from the parking lot to Dog Lake so there wasn't any speed involved and everyone was really nice about it. People like me need large signs at every possible access points to make sure their stupidity doesn't prevail.
I felt like a drunk on the Big Mtn ridgeline yesterday, it was blowing so hard I kept getting pushed across the double track into the grass. I could feel the wind lift my helmet a bit. Carrying the bike across snowfields in the middle of the big gusts was sporty AF...
For Millcreek I always remember that 'hikers are odd'. Now do I always remember what the date is when I'm riding? No, especially if I end up on the Crest and want to just descend all the way home (which is mainly how I ride Millcreek, I find the trails there hard to justify riding on their own...)
Odd/even seems to work OK for bikes/no bikes (though I have no idea how often the Millcreek policy is willfully or mistakenly violated), but that's a pretty B&W divide and I just don't see the relative subtlety of different directions on different days working out well.
Its odd that I can have my dog off leash in SLC. Always works for me.
I always went with “Even you can ride bikes on even days”
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I finally got it to stick with "It's odd you cant ride your bike on an odd day."
Bikes have two wheels. Two is an even number. You can ride on even days.
Thanks Shane
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