Nordica Enforcers - TGR-Enough for Their Own Thread

[MagnificentUnicorn]

^^Head added metal to the Kore line up for next season and there’s a Kore eighty eight ti. When I saw my buddy the Head rep on them I remarked that they looked like Enforcers.

[SchralphMacchio]

Excellent info, I’ll add to my list of things to look at!
And no complaints about the Enforcer 94 either, more just looking for my optimal slightly more playful but still crushy low tide ski.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

My buddy said that they’re like a hybrid of the Monster series and the Kore series but they updated the Kore tail with some taper and splay. Looked like around twenty cms of tail rocker.

[MNazWIcoWA]

My buddy said that they’re like a hybrid of the Monster series and the Kore series but they updated the Kore tail with some taper and splay. Looked like around twenty cms of tail rocker.

I'd love to A/B compare the Enforcer 89 to 94. I also tend to still go off-pisted when conditions are shitty and want a ski that can deal with shit conditions everywhere.

[Duffman]

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Excellent info, I&rsquo;ll add to my list of things to look at! And no complaints about the Enforcer 94 either, more just looking for my optimal slightly more playful but still crushy low tide ski.

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Nailed it.&nbsp; Happy w mine just a slightly looser tail would be even better</p>

[whyturn]

Picked up some some enforcer unlimited one o four touring skis Really stable and decently light Easy and fun like my Mfree


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[noslow]

Review of the new Enforcer 104 from Blister Review. Agree with all their findings but definitely think there&#39;s an even larger difference between them and the old 104 Free. The new 104 is a lot stiffer, a bit heavier, more damp and has increased power. Playful still but not as easy going as the old one. The stability and willingness to go straight along with the strength on edge are the biggest changes I found.

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2024-2025-nordica-enforcer-104

[MNazWIcoWA]

After reading more about the 2025 E104, I do wonder why they didn’t go with 108-112 waist instead (or in addition to the 99 and 104). I’ve been on the E104 Free in the past and currently the E99, and I've taken the E99 out at Stevens Pass in a variety of conditions—everything from light powder (a few feet), to heavy/wet snow, chop, and hard pack. I’m consistently impressed with how well the E99 handles all of them. The added tail rocker and more forward mount provide everything I want from the E104 Free, while still maintaining that stiff, damp ride. Dropping cliffs, steep narrow chutes, straight-lining through chop, even bouncing around in the trees. If you are a stronger, aggressive skier, this ski allows you to do a lot with it. Last season and at the start of this one, my daily driver was the Moment DW 104, and I also spent a lot of time on the Praxis MVP 108 and Moment DW 112. I loved all of those skis, but if I had to grab just one ski without considering conditions, it would definitely be the E99. The extra 5 cm of the E104, though a bit burlier from what reviews have said, doesn’t seem significant enough to differentiate the skis really. I'd rather take the narrower E99 and gain some quickness and grip on icy, hard pack conditions. I’m hoping to try the E104 to compare, but I do wish they would have skipped the 104 or added another ski in the 108-112 range, positioning it closer to skis like the Moment Countach 110 or the Volkl Revolt 114.

[noslow]

The whole new Enforcer line has been tweaked so you just choose your snow type/width and you will get a very similar experience throughout the whole line. The Enforcer 104(and especially the old 110) were outliers of the group with their twin tails and softer flex patterns(esp 110) vs the narrower skis. And the latest 100 didn&#39;t have much more tail rocker vs the 94 which you&#39;d think if would as it&#39;s a bit more off trail/softer snow biased. Now they all are very similar in flex pattern and just get a bit more tail rocker as they get wider.
The 94 didn&#39;t change much but the 89 got a bit more harder snow focused and the 99 got easier off trail and lighter on its feet. The 104 now has the carving power of the narrower skis but is still fun in soft snow. The biggest change is definitely in the 104 which became much more serious a ski vs the old 104 Free. Think most who liked the old series would like the new but could see the odd 104 Free skier not loving the new 104. I&#39;d always demo the same length but would consider trying a step down in length on the new 104 too. Should have similar stability but would be more playful in the shorter length. I&#39;d consider the new 104 an option for an easier off trail Mantra 102 now which I would have never compared the 104 Free with.
Unleashed 108 a lighter, very precise option and think Nordica is assuming that some 104 and 110 Free customers will just move to the Unleashed line instead.
If I wanted an Enforcer type ski in the 110-112mm range, I&#39;d recommend checking out the Sender Free 110/Mfree 112 skis. Incredible versatility like the Enforcer line and easy off trail like the Enforcer Free line.

[Bandit Man]

The new Enforcer one-o-four is a masterpiece. Wow.

[MNazWIcoWA]

The new Enforcer one-o-four is a masterpiece. Wow.

I&rsquo;m sitting here calling the E99 a masterpiece, while diving into a debate about the overlap between the E99 and the E104. You all are making it hard to resist grabbing the 104 too..I&#39;ll just use the exuse &quot;it&rsquo;ll be my powder ski.&quot;

[noslow]

I guess Bandit finally got on a set of 104s! Love them too! Did you buy a set or just try them out? 185cm I assume? Like I was saying in the previous post, the Enforcers are now 5mm gaps between skis getting a bit heavier and softer snow biased as they go wider.
Think the 104 changed the most with its flex change and its also the only one that seems to have increased the turning radius in the 179cm and 185cm models vs the old ones and the rest of the line. Definitely find them more stable at speed now vs the 104 Free/the old Enforcers.

[Bandit Man]

I guess Bandit finally got on a set of 104s! Love them too! Did you buy a set or just try them out? 185cm I assume? Like I was saying in the previous post, the Enforcers are now 5mm gaps between skis getting a bit heavier and softer snow biased as they go wider. Think the 104 changed the most with its flex change and its also the only one that seems to have increased the turning radius in the 179cm and 185cm models vs the old ones and the rest of the line. Definitely find them more stable at speed now vs the 104 Free/the old Enforcers.

Bought some 185s from Euroland. Finally mounted them up with P15s and skied them yesterday in mid-winter/continental/dry snow conditions. Agree with all the things you have shared previously about both the Enforcer 99 and Enforcer 104. I&#39;ve been skiing my E99s as my go to this year and after hearing the 104 was more stable and a bit more serious, my interest was piqued. I really enjoy the increased stability and mix of playful charger the 104 exhibits, yet it is still so easy to figure out. I agree with your assessment that there are some similarities to the M102, but in a more fun and friendly format. I also feel that the new 104 is a bit less locked in than the original, but the new ones also feel easiser to smear/break loose in the tail. I&#39;m very appreciative of your review of the new 104, as it had a direct effect on my decision to try one myself. I suspect that I&#39;m going to be on them a lot the rest of the season.

[SchralphMacchio]

That’s all interesting feedback. I liked the 179 104 Free … at 140 lbs it seems like if I were to grab a current gen model I might be better served on the 173? (All hypotheticals anyways, I’m not looking for mid 100 skis right now)

[noslow]

That&rsquo;s all interesting feedback. I liked the 179 104 Free &hellip; at 140 lbs it seems like if I were to grab a current gen model I might be better served on the 173? (All hypotheticals anyways, I&rsquo;m not looking for mid 100 skis right now)

Have you ever been on any of the other Enforcers in a 179cm length? If so, then you&#39;d have a similar experience on the new 104 with a bit looser tail than the narrower ones. If you were happy on the 179 104 Free I&#39;d probably say try the 179cm Enforcer 104 and see if you like it and if not try the 173cm. Think most people would prefer the added float and stability of staying with the 179cm unless you ski nothing but super tight trees and moguls maybe.

[noslow]

Glad I could make you spend more money on skis Bandit! Haha
Really Like the new 104 too and I definitely feel the &quot;precise, stable feel but able to break loose easily&quot; with them too. Find they are much more willing to go fast but still easy to turn at lower speeds. Find they have a multi radius sidecut feel but don&#39;t see it mentioned anywhere in their descriptions.

[SchralphMacchio]

Have you ever been on any of the other Enforcers in a 179cm length? If so, then you'd have a similar experience on the new 104 with a bit looser tail than the narrower ones.

I’m on 179 E94s from 23-24. Length feels fine but I wouldn’t want the tips or tails any stiffer as I think the progressive flex is what leads to such a smooth suspension for me

[noslow]

I&rsquo;m on 179 E94s from 23-24. Length feels fine but I wouldn&rsquo;t want the tips or tails any stiffer as I think the progressive flex is what leads to such a smooth suspension for me

Then you&#39;ll be perfect on the 179cm 104 then. Flex is very similar now in the new 104(was softer before in the 104 free) to your 94 but with more tail rocker and a bit more forward mount so it will be easier to pivot still. Find the 25 Enforcers with the rubber underfoot and less carbon feel more damp with improved suspension. The 104 has the best suspension and stability of the lineup now.

[ZomblibulaX]

Hypothetical for all you Enforcer lovers:

My behemoth of a brother (6'3"/250, former mag from the K2 forum days) needs to update his DD from a gold buddha Gotama and carbon cochise. He's not monster trucking the hill anymore, but homeboy can bend a fucking ski. I skied the original E104 and liked it well enough, but found it to be too soft and turny for aggressive monkeyfucking, and my brother is likely to agree since we enjoy the same skis. Is the updated E104 enough of a bump up in build/flex that his gigantic ass won't just fold it in half? I watched him snap a new pocket rocket in front of the toe on a groomer back in the day, just carving on hardpack. He's not looking for playful/maneuverable, he's big enough to throw anything around and not old enough for it to be a pain in the ass for him.

Also wondering if the 191 is as much of a dog as the 193/191 E100; that ski did not scale well to the largest size, it just felt like a dead fish and had far too much sidecut for a ski that long. The 186 was significantly better even if it did like to turn too much for my taste. Not dogging on enforcers in general, just the 193 wasn't as much fun as the 186 and didn't really give you anything more at the top end to justify the length.

Thoughts?

[SnowMachine]

Moment Commander 102 in a 188 comes to mind. I bet he would shred on it.

[Upinsmoke]

Just have your brother buy r99 comps from Heritage outlet

[noslow]

Sounds like you were pretty close to liking the 186 104 Free if it was more willing to go straight and was stiffer? Than the 185cm 104 will for sure accomplish that. About as stiff and stable as the old 191cm 104 Free in shorter length. The new 191cm 104 goes stiffer still, 2450gr but similar turn radius to the old one or the new 185cm though.
I&#39;ve been impressed with the improvements in the 185cm 104 and felt the same way as you about the 186 104 Free.

[Kevo]

Bandit Man- is the new E 104 more of a handful in tight spots than the 104 Free?

It is also interesting to hear that it is more loose in the tail given the shape.

Also- what length did you have the most time on with the 104 Free- did you downsize to the new 104?

[ZomblibulaX]

Just have your brother buy r99 comps from Heritage outlet

I might do exactly that. I forgot Marshal hit me up about that pair coming back in.

[MNazWIcoWA]

Looking for a ski to compliment my E99. Loving the E99 for the most part at Stevens Pass considering we really haven't been getting snow, but looking at the Unleashed 108 or E110 Free (local shop has a 185). Anyone have experience on both? Would like to mount more forward at -6 or -5 for ease of spins, landing and riding switch, etc. Is the E110 Free significantly more stable while still being playful or are they pretty similar? Go with the cheaper one? Going up to Whistler in March and will probably take it up there for more big mountain play.Previous skis lately have been the Praxis MVP 108, DW 112, and Bent 110 in this width range. MVP 108 and DW 112 were phenomenal skis, but like to try different brands and different skis.