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  1. #9801
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    Holy shit.

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday blamed the Democrats' push to impeach President Trump in January for distracting the Trump administration from the threat posed by the coronavirus.

    "It came up while we were tied down in the impeachment trial. And I think it diverted the attention of the government because everything every day was all about impeachment," McConnell said in an interview on "The Hugh Hewitt Show."

    Trump has come under sharp criticism for the nation's slow response to the spreading pandemic, especially for the shortage of coronavirus testing kits when the virus first spread to the United States."

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottime View Post
    hyperbole. its a thing around here.

    I actually just replaced my machine about 18 months ago. The prior one was over two decades old. When researching, lots of reports of machines failing in 3-5 years. I went with an LG that was rated pretty high for durability. No issues yet, But this one does not fold the clothes for me, so it is pretty basic (here I am using sarcasm - another popular thing around here)
    Well, yeah. You bought a machine that may last twenty years for about 700 bucks after reading biased sales propaganda that convinced you that others are buying machines that only last three years for the same price. They made you feel so smart. (more popular sarcasm)

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    Heh, the impeachment trial was a prelude showing how President Trump would handle the epidemic: it's a media hoax, a nothingburger, a dem conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    This may have something to do with you not doing yoga.
    Possibly. I'm like an 18 year old girl. Tight....
    Took me like 10 minutes to figure out how to change this shit

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    FYI...in case you have never done it, buying and replacing the electronics in your appliances is not hard and is rather economic...if needed.

    As for washers and dryers and manufacturing in the US...I recently bought a set of Whirlpools. They work awesome and I am happy with them. Load and Go is way more convenient then I could of ever thought and having sanitation cycles on both the washer and dryer has come in handy during all this...even if it is all just mental. I have two small children that have been working through potty training and bed wetting. It is nice to be able to hit sanitize and have the washer dispense the detergent based on load weight, etc. Fill it up every couple weeks.

    Funny enough, the electronics are the thing I worry most about them...which is the parts probably made over seas (boards, etc.). The buttons are not tactile and you have to press for 3 seconds while it count downs...safety I guess? Sometimes they act out and I have to turn the machine off and back on. Been like that since new though.

    We also recently bought a Hot Springs spa. Made in San Diego. Great craftsmanship and quality...been super happy with it. Guess where my Tacoma was made? Also, my Outback?

    We can still make things in the US and frankly, I hope all of this gives consumers a new appreciation for American made. Heck, my company makes our stuff in the US, however, we do some assembly work in Mexico. With that said, I would also rather buy something made in Canada or Mexico over something made in China.

    We can all sit here and say how terrible Trump is, etc., however he has been more successful then our last couple presidents at negotiating trade agreements and is the first in a long time to stand up to China's trade practices. I think it is the one positive we can say about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    Nutmeg and anyone else experiencing symptoms, I thought this video from a local retired MD was interesting- basically ways to try to drain the mucous...
    I followed the exercise last night and today and my coughs been significantly less.
    What a gem she is.
    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Mainly because we're not awesome at manufacturing shit any more.

    Funny bit.
    Donít get me wrong Iím not a total socialist and have made some money being a capitalist. If we took some of the over indulgent 100ís of millions of dollars of annual personal pay to some of the C collar crew and raised the wages of the people on the lines, manufacturing quality would go up and costs would go down. I am clearly typing on a phone made in China, but a fair bit of my stuff was made here and I think we could do more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    I followed the exercise last night and today and my coughs been significantly less.
    What a gem she is.
    Thanks again!
    Glad to hear you’re getting better. I forwarded the vid to friends as well.
    Seems like she could chop 50% of the vid but I guess some will like the bedside manor.

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    You mean to tell me, the stable genius can't multi-task? I thought Trump had ignored the impeachment trial as a dem hoax, witch hunt, and was doing the people's work?
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    I followed the exercise last night and today and my coughs been significantly less.
    What a gem she is.
    Thanks again!
    I like to hear this.
    Keep on keepin’ on!
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    For those into modeling virus progression. Not my cup of tea but for those into this sort of thing, worth a read.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ovid-19-model/
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Saw this today and was not something in my consciousness. Food stamp cards are refilled at the beginning of the month. Folks are likely running on fumes. If youíre not low on food avoid grocery shopping April 1&2 and go April 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post

    We can all sit here and say how terrible Trump is, etc., however he has been more successful then our last couple presidents at negotiating trade agreements and is the first in a long time to stand up to China's trade practices. I think it is the one positive we can say about him.
    Generally I agree with you. I appreciate that he has reexamined these and is working to renegotiate them. That said, he also put a 15% hit on my business without what seemed like a ton of thought. Apparel businesses simply don't have an option right now and from what we're hearing, nobody is scrambling to provide on stateside. We just don't have the skilled labor.
    "All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Yeah, no. North America forgot how to sew technical garments using materials like Gore, Toray, Everest--whatever your favorite material, not to mention specialty textiles like Merino a few decades ago. Are there cut-and-sew facilities here? Yes. Are they as good? No, and they are more expensive, indeed. The fact of the matter is that as of right now, you simply can't get the same quality as you can from China or Vietnam. Folks like to think it's "just cheaper" but in reality, they're "way better" at it, as it has become their craft.

    Also, a $600 Arc'Teryx jacket does not cost $40 to manufacture. Material and trim is more than that. On top of that, they haven't changed hands since 2005 when they were acquired by Amer as part of the Salomon acquisition, so not sure about this debt load of which you speak.
    I think we can agree to disagree. There are plenty of your favorite brands sewing right here in the USA to be berry compliant. And while I may be off by a few dollars, that arcteryx is maybe $60-$90 on the high end.
    The bottom line is folks offshored their talent, machines and technology for so long the chickens have come home to roost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    And while I may be off by a few dollars, that arcteryx is maybe $60-$90 on the high end.
    The bottom line is folks offshored their talent, machines and technology for so long the chickens have come home to roost.
    Not according to our PD employee who worked for Arc'Terryx for 7 years...Gore doesn't sell 3 layer Pro at that price, even to Arc'Teryx who is one of their largest Goretex customers.
    "All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    We can all sit here and say how terrible Trump is, etc., however he has been more successful then our last couple presidents at negotiating trade agreements and is the first in a long time to stand up to China's trade practices. I think it is the one positive we can say about him.
    One of the few things I was hopeful would come from a Trump presidency was a return of some of our manufacturing from China. Unfortunately he hasn't had much success on that front. His trade deals include backing out of trans-Pacific, some minor deals with SK and Japan, and NAFTA 2.0, mostly just a name change. Minor improvements in some of these deals, others just to give him the perception of having "won" something. In any case, nothing near what he promised or what would be helpful for our current situation.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    We can all sit here and say how terrible Trump is, etc., however he has been more successful then our last couple presidents at negotiating trade agreements and is the first in a long time to stand up to China's trade practices. I think it is the one positive we can say about him.
    You know who pays for tariffs, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    And while I may be off by a few dollars, that arcteryx is maybe $60-$90 on the high end.
    I used to know a lot of people that worked at BC.com. This sounds about right based on what they told me margins were on high-end outerwear.

    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    The bottom line is folks offshored their talent, machines and technology for so long the chickens have come home to roost.
    I don't see how the general premise here can be argued against. All so CEO/executive pay could balloon from 30x average worker pay to 300x.

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    Well he said the engineers don’t need to worry about making cars pollute less, so that will help out in the short term. /humor

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    Guerilla Gravity is selling made-in-Denver carbon frames for less than pretty much everyone else. Matt's a smart MF, and that's a pretty specific industry, but couldn't other smart MFs find creative ways to bring manufacturing back if they really wanted to? Maybe not, I'm genuinely curious.
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    I really need my sinuses cleaned out.
    They gots stuff for dat

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    You don't buy my hypothesis that only a fraction of the population is susceptible? Has this ever been observed with any other virus, or is every virus that can infect humans infect all humans (other than those who have acquired antibodies)? I know it's far fetched, but possible?
    Literally just came down my feed.

    https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/ar...9/1683/5640134

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Holy shit.

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday blamed the Democrats' push to impeach President Trump in January for distracting the Trump administration from the threat posed by the coronavirus.

    "It came up while we were tied down in the impeachment trial. And I think it diverted the attention of the government because everything every day was all about impeachment," McConnell said in an interview on "The Hugh Hewitt Show."
    Awesome. The blame game du jour. Harry Truman is rolling in his grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Holy shit.

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday blamed the Democrats' push to impeach President Trump in January for distracting the Trump administration from the threat posed by the coronavirus.

    "It came up while we were tied down in the impeachment trial. And I think it diverted the attention of the government because everything every day was all about impeachment," McConnell said in an interview on "The Hugh Hewitt Show."

    Trump has come under sharp criticism for the nation's slow response to the spreading pandemic, especially for the shortage of coronavirus testing kits when the virus first spread to the United States."
    Is McConnell admitting that the pres fucked up the response?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Is McConnell admitting that the pres fucked up the response?
    And that they are unable to multitask/dumb?
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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