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[grinch]

cuz if you need to mess with handlebars such as bleeding brakes lock-on grips are handy

its possible to find thin lock ons, yeti and SC came with thin branded lock-ons

Push ons are still thinner. A little bit goes a long way for comfort. Lock ons do offer that convenience but the push ons are so cheap that i can just throw another one or 2 on if for some reason i have to pull a lever or shifter. The push ons are still cheaper but if for some reason i have to do multiple swaps and tgey end up more than lock ons its still a small price to pay. Besides, ive come to the conclusion that the thinnest possible is a necessity. Anyone has a thinner grippy push on thats thinner thsn the renthals im all ears
Worth a try if you think they may work for you. If not you still have the lock ons. I used tge renthat grip glue, $7 a tube will do multiple pairs. I put them on both bikes and still lots left but not sure on shrlf life. Every order i throw in grips, brake pads , maybe a chsin etc

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[XXX-er]

What brakes require you to remove the grips to bleed them? Am I missing something?

you mean about grips or just in general ?

maybe you wana take them off the bar and rap on them to dislodge bubbles ?

fucking with the seat dropper or whatever ?

whatever reason you might want to take a grip off

[skaredshtles]

you mean about grips or just in general ?

maybe you wana take them off the bar and rap on them to dislodge bubbles ?

fucking with the seat dropper or whatever ?

whatever reason you might want to take a grip off

I guess I'm just used to everything being removable from the bar without removing the grips... I guess if I needed to remove grips with any regularity, lock-ons might be handy.

I always thought they were kind of a solution looking for a problem, though.

[XXX-er]

. I used tge renthat grip glue, $7 a tube will do multiple pairs. I put them on both bikes and still lots left but not sure on shrlf life. Every order i throw in grips, brake pads , maybe a chsin etc

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just don' t use hairspray cuz every time I rode them in the rain the grips would slip on the bar even 20 yrs later

plain alcohol or compressed air if you got a compressor

[Rossymcg]

Ive gone back to thin push on grips and its made a big difference in forearm pump. Long downhills use to get scary near the end and not fun. No plaumying on the bike at all just survival. Glued on renthal push ons. Less than half the price of lock ons. No idea why i stayed with lock ons for so long. Ultra thin oakley bmx grips were my faves for years. Probably impossible to find those though

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I've never had arm pump, which I put down to climbing. The tennis elbow seemed to come after hitting a basket of balls at the range for the 1st time in 4 years. I've changed grips lately that are thicker I'm thinking that may have aggravated it

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[XXX-er]

must resist making penis joke

[grinch]

I've never had arm pump, which I put down to climbing. The tennis elbow seemed to come after hitting a basket of balls at the range for the 1st time in 4 years. I've changed grips lately that are thicker I'm thinking that may have aggravated it

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Possible. I was piggybacking off xxxers reply to you but a friend just had surgery to his tennis elbow and they operated on the nerve at the wrist

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[grinch]

On 2nd thought i think i need oury grips, long necks, ya oury's. Ultra longs......

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[XXX-er]

Possible. I was piggybacking off xxxers reply to you but a friend just had surgery to his tennis elbow and they operated on the nerve at the wrist

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That ^^ is possibly not tennis elbow?

Old goat to the courtesy phone

you either get tennis elbow which is pain on the outside of the elbow between elbow & wrist closer to elbow

or golfers elbow which is pain on the inside of elbow as I understand but have never experienced/ don't know much about

[Jtlange]

anyone else suffered tennis elbow and struggled to ride. mines murder

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Get a Wave tool and work out the problem on your tendon. Climbers get tennis elbow a lot and this thing works like a charm.

https://wavetoolstherapy.com/

[bennymac]

Possible. I was piggybacking off xxxers reply to you but a friend just had surgery to his tennis elbow and they operated on the nerve at the wrist

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Ulnar nerve issue - different than tennis elbow (tendon issue)

[grinch]

Ulnar nerve issue - different than tennis elbow (tendon issue)

Copy that. I only play a dr on the interwebz

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[sethschmautz]

just don' t use hairspray cuz every time I rode them in the rain the grips would slip on the bar even 20 yrs later

Funny. I use(d) hairspray quite a bit with non lock ons and never had them slip... Mostly running lock ons now.

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[XXX-er]

I don't know what brand of hairspray but my ODI mushroom grips would start to slip as things got wet and stop slipping as things dried out

ERGO I suggest hairspray is a bad idea, in any case its the alcohol that slides them on the bar so i use alcohol, really the best way is to shoot compressed air into the grip as you slide them on

even the hair band BonJovi are sayin " slippery when wet " the band was hanging out at #5 Orange street in Vangroovy when they recorded that ^^ album, the stripper stage has or had a shower

[jono]

Push ons are still thinner. A little bit goes a long way for comfort.

How thin are you looking for? I just got done stretching an old road tube onto my nephew's bars to shim his grips out a little...guess you could just grab some XS non-lubricated next time you're at the gas station?

Anyone run ODI's a little bit past the end of the bars to increase effective bar length? With the supply shitshow we've got an old pair of those making longer bars for a minute on a spare bike and I'm a little curious how long that might be ok or if it needs to be swapped out ASAP.

[XXX-er]

https://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-...er-fit-condoms

Oh and btw don't use the lubricated brand

[BFD]

what glasses are the experts using for riding in and out of shadows? Seems the butcher up front is always throwing shit up so no glasses is not an option.

[Dantheman]

what glasses are the experts using for riding in and out of shadows? Seems the butcher up front is always throwing shit up so no glasses is not an option.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-Rout...asses/50432624

[toast2266]

what glasses are the experts using for riding in and out of shadows? Seems the butcher up front is always throwing shit up so no glasses is not an option.

I have some shitty rockbros glasses from Amazon with photochromic lenses. They don't go particularly dark, but they work pretty well for fall riding.

[nickwm21]

what glasses are the experts using for riding in and out of shadows? Seems the butcher up front is always throwing shit up so no glasses is not an option.

I have a lowlight amber for my Smith Wildcats. VLT 65%. Work great for low light, enough tint to be acceptably comfortable in full sun.

https://www.smithoptics.com/en_US/su...53LEN0099.html


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[VTskibum]

what glasses are the experts using for riding in and out of shadows? Seems the butcher up front is always throwing shit up so no glasses is not an option.

I'm super picky about lenses not being too dark, think it was earlier in this thread I asked for opinions. I'd rather them be a bit too light in the sun vs too dark in the tree/shadows where in my case is when you have to be on it most.

My personal favorite is Smith's Chromapop Rose, the 2nd lense with many of their new offerings. Have about 6 weeks on a pair of Smith Ruckus w it and continues to be my favorite. Had many years on the previous non Chroma-pop iteration as well, can't say they're much different. Would also be interested in some of their Photochromatic, which I like skiing, but don't think they would handle in/out of shadows well.

I have the original Oakley Prizm Trail which are IMO too dark for shadows and anything tree cover, but YMMV bc a bunch of my east coast friends like them. The new Trail Fire (?) are supposedly even darker, which seems pretty ridiculous and mostly applicable to open SoCal and alpine trails. I am quite interested in the Oakley Low Light, but were harder to track down and have been happy w/ Smiths.

I don't love the generic safety glasses as I think the clarity of the good stuff Smith/Oakley is worth it unless you're really tough on your glasses. I tend to look for overstock/old-colors etc, got my latest Ruckus in this orange frame new for <$100 which will likely last 3+ seasons given past track record.

[t.odd]

smith attack, photochromic, they're awesome for all around riding ime.

[plugboots]

I have the Oakley Prizm trail and road lenses, but I got a deal and am liking the Julbo reactiv photchromatic a lot. I like 1-3 vs. 0-3 since I don’t need clear, (0).

[J. Barron DeJong]

I have Smith ‘Ignitor’ lenses, 36% VLT. Great for sunny days in and out of woods. On heavily overcast days something a bit lighter would be a better.

For those with photochromic lenses, are they responding quickly enough if you’re in and out of the woods? Or if you we’re riding in the open and then the trail dives into the brush are you left struggling to see in the dark for a while?

[t.odd]

I have Smith ‘Ignitor’ lenses, 36% VLT. Great for sunny days in and out of woods. On heavily overcast days something a bit lighter would be a better.

For those with photochromic lenses, are they responding quickly enough if you’re in and out of the woods? Or if you we’re riding in the open and then the trail dives into the brush are you left struggling to see in the dark for a while?

I never notice any lag or extreme variations with the Smith photochromic lenses, personally.