Lupo Pro HD thread

[waveshello]

^Thanks for this.

Anyone have more info/ride reports on the Cabrio Free LVs? Trying to find a replacement Lupo Pro HD, 27.5, but tough sledding. Looking for a Krypton TI as well, ideally new...
Anyone switched from 98 last Krypt/Lupo to another walkable PU boot in this weight/flex range with success? Cabrio Free LV? Lange XT3? Slack ski and prioritize down so believe the Roxa is out (weight), unless I'm wrong on that. Ideally strongest in class sorta thing, mated to a hybrid binding and probably a 191 VWK.
If in the conversation, are parts (tongues specifically) swappable from Lupo/Krypton to the new stock?
TIA. The search begins. Thanks Dalbello.

Edit to add: K2 Mindbender series fit similar? 140s around. Turns out the Roxa R3 TI is grilamid.

There is a fresh pair of the blue lupo pro HDs in 27.5 for sale here in Seattle. $300. Let me know if you are interested, I could facilitate.

[iriponsnow]

^ just as data point / warning. I skied the Lupo for years w/o really thinking about my boots…. They just worked.

I went to Lange last year and the were so upright, I never got settled & struggled a bunch.

I have some Fischers and Atomics for this season & carpet testing they feel great & the lean is more Lupos.

[Name Redacted]

^ just as data point / warning. I skied the Lupo for years w/o really thinking about my boots…. They just worked.

I went to Lange last year and the were so upright, I never got settled & struggled a bunch.

I have some Fischers and Atomics for this season & carpet testing they feel great & the lean is more Lupos.

You sure? I have Lange xt140s and Lupo pro hd too, but the fwd lean on the Lupos are definitely more upright. So the other way around.

[Qilimanjaro]

Lange advertises 12 degrees. Atomic Hawx is 15+-2, so 13 is the most upright you can go.

I remember my old FTs had plastic inserts for forward lean adjustments, but don't remember the exact numbers

[Name Redacted]

Lange advertises 12 degrees. Atomic Hawx is 15+-2, so 13 is the most upright you can go.

I remember my old FTs had plastic inserts for forward lean adjustments, but don't remember the exact numbers

the Lange xt3s are 12º and the Lupos are 11º. So the Lupos are more upright. You can add more to both boots if you like though, through various mods.

[iriponsnow]

the Lange xt3s are 12º and the Lupos are 11º. So the Lupos are more upright. You can add more to both boots if you like though, through various mods.

This. I had the Cascade Design link + a heel drop & a spoiler going to ~ 16; the Lange really does not accommodate as much.

[gregL]

Some day someone will be walking through the Dalbello factory and see all those discarded 98mm Krypton and Lupo molds sitting around, offer to buy them, and start a "new" boot company . . .

[JRainey]

Any links for that, or too new?

Sounds good. Luckily there's like 10,000 lupo variants on sale on the used market to keep us horders happy.

[iriponsnow]

Any links for that, or too new?

Sounds good. Luckily there's like 10,000 lupo variants on sale on the used market to keep us horders happy.

Think he's joking.

[JRainey]

I was wondering after googling around and of course K2s were showing up.... slow here :-)

I just can't see myself on anything but Lupo for long into the future. I'm working on a super striped down version to get me closer to 1k touring weight. But love my HDs for regular skiing. I think I've gotten over the Lupton mod, I just don't think I'll notice.

[Mulletizer]

Some day someone will be walking through the Dalbello factory and see all those discarded 98mm Krypton and Lupo molds sitting around, offer to buy them, and start a "new" boot company . . .

It may have been mentioned higher up the thread but Dalbello are actually still making the Lupo, though maybe not for sale to all their retailers. I bought a new pair last winter from a shop in CH who'd had a run of Lupos made to their specs (no liner and, I think, slightly different lower shell material). When I walked past in August they had another couple of newly delivered pallets of Lupos sitting outside. Maybe if you'll buy enough of them Dalbello will dust off the moulds for you.

[Name Redacted]

What aftermarket liners are people using and liking in these? Might get a foam injected liner or get a new heat moldable one.

[pfluffenmeister]

Zipfit Freerider in my older Lupo Ti.

Boot Nirvana.

[Gnar_Shralp406]

Ya ZipFits are the way to go. Either Freeride or Gara. Difference being the upper calf area of the liner. Gara has more material higher in the calf and may bother folks with larger/lower calves. Freeride has more stretchy neoprene in that region. I have chicken legs and have been very happy in the Freeride, but think I could have gone Gara if they were available.

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[Name Redacted]

Ya ZipFits are the way to go. Either Freeride or Gara. Difference being the upper calf area of the liner. Gara has more material higher in the calf and may bother folks with larger/lower calves. Freeride has more stretchy neoprene in that region. I have chicken legs and have been very happy in the Freeride, but think I could have gone Gara if they were available.

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Yeah, their quiz says i need a gara lv. Those cost more than a pair of boots! How are they if you switch them between shells?

[Gnar_Shralp406]

Yeah, their quiz says i need a gara lv. Those cost more than a pair of boots! How are they if you switch them between shells?

Mine went through 3 shells last season. It's super easy as the omnifit cork moves to fill up negative space. Just heat it up a bit and then go skiing.

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[rigbone]

I run Gara LVs in my Lupos and they're phenomenal, hands down the best ski equipment upgrade I've made.

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[Name Redacted]

Mine went through 3 shells last season. It's super easy as the omnifit cork moves to fill up negative space. Just heat it up a bit and then go skiing.

Nice, good to hear. Heat up how much? Like boot drier heat or oven heat?

[Gnar_Shralp406]

Nice, good to hear. Heat up how much? Like boot drier heat or oven heat?

It doesn't take much. You could hold them under an air dryer in the bathroom for a little bit. It just helps to get the omnifit warm so it moves into place more easily. Just skiing them without warming them up will also move it, just takes a little more time. Either way, the beauty of the liner is that rhe cork moves to fill voids and you can add more throughout the life of the liner. I've had customers who have put over 500 days on theirs and they're still going strong. Put a layer of gorilla tape over the heal to help with wear and tear. Replace as needed and that will keep them fresh for years to come.

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[turnfarmer]

^ just as data point / warning. I skied the Lupo for years w/o really thinking about my boots…. They just worked.

I went to Lange last year and the were so upright, I never got settled & struggled a bunch.

I have some Fischers and Atomics for this season & carpet testing they feel great & the lean is more Lupos.

I have a theory for you. Even though the Lupos start out straighter the flex range is much longer allowing you to get where you need to be. The Langes are a little more forward, but the upper hits the clog sooner than most boots, limiting the range of motion forward. IMO of course, YMMV.

[stealurface831]

I did a mod for someone to tighten their ankle and reduce heel lift. It will pull the boot closer in to the front of your ankle.

1. Remove cuff
2. If you have no punches, bake entire shell. If you have punches, just heat up the area in front of the ankle/instep with a heat gun. Go slow and you won’t damage the gaiter.
3. Put a semi rigid spacer under the ankle buckle cable. This is to stop the cable from digging into the soft plastic. But it needs to be flexible enough to allow the plastic to curve in when buckle is tightened. I made a strip out of the bontex shin that comes with the boot.
4. Put boot on. Without the tongue.
5. Put shim under cable and tighten cable until it feels tight on your ankle.
6. Let cool

This will reduce the heel-to-instep distance on this boot which is huge. It will make the shell actually wrap around your ankle and retain it better. I found the cable did little for heel retention because the wheel is so deep and there is no plastic in front of your foot.

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thinking about giving this a try but wary of tightening things on my navicular and cuneiforms. valid concern? lacrosse ball or the like under the forefoot buckle?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Put something under your liner to lift your foot. Maybe a foot board under your insole too.


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[stealurface831]

Put something under your liner to lift your foot. Maybe a foot board under your insole too.

should probably just leave it be. gone back and forth with wedges but ditched em when i got my zips dialed. added instep pressure outweighed any marginal heel hold improvement i got from them. i'll fuck with cork redistribution before i mess with the shell. really i'm just chasing perfection. the heel/ankle thing is so slight.