Skis you HATED.. Recent edition, 2010 or newer.

[goldenboy]

I'm glad to see the Cham 107's mentioned multiple times, that's an all-time shitty ski. The Fischer Ranger was also mentioned early on in this thread, as it should be. Total POS.

[muted]

I hated the Megawatts and some BD touring ski I can't remember from 4 years ago. Not gonna try BD again, there's too many good ski makers out there.

[RootSkier]

Blizzard Bodacious.

Fuck those things. Anyone want them, cheap?

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Blizzard Bodacious.

Fuck those things. Anyone want them, cheap?

What year?

[RootSkier]

Not the first gen...the next. Either 2015 or 16 I think?

Edit: fuck, I don't know. This year's: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ski/calgary/...ationFlag=true These are not mine, I'd sell much, much, much cheaper.

[TAFKALVS]

Funny thing is, I love the Cham 107.

[XXX-er]

This all circles around to the saying.. "there are no bad skis, just bad skiers".. Or, "it's not the arrow, it's the...". Are the skis really terrible, or is the skier not versatile enough to adjust? Or, is the skier such a high level that they can detect minute differences as major differences? Personally, I've skied things I thought were mediocre but haven't come across anything I "hated". I get disappointed when I come to the realization that it's time to replace a pair I loved because they're skied out. I'll try to change up the tune on them 2-3 times before finally giving up that they're just floppy noodles at speed or chattering tipped no matter what I do with the tune.

AA better question might be are there any skis that are bad at what they are SUPPOSED to do ? Maybe the RMU ? A buddy who sold G3 for 8 years claims he never liked any of them but if you wana sell G3 skins/bindings the rep will pressure you to carry some skis

Different skis do different things maybe its the driver who wants a certain kind of ski and didn't like not gettting that experiance ?

A 5 point design like the wailer 112 and the JJ (VERY similar IME) are gona act like a 5 point design

a GS race ski is gona suck off piste same with a 223 DH or a slalom ski

DPS has/is still selling a whole shwack of wailers the 112 is a very sucessful product, I personaly did find the 112 limited in performance too small of a turning radius BUT easy to ski for someone who spends more time with their hands in peoples mouths than skiing, except while you will see a dentist on the elegant Lamborghini yellow Wailer, you won't see him on a JJ with the neon deathhead topsheet

I do still have a JJ in rotation as an early season rock/pow/touring setup but I am so over the 5 point design

[SkiLyft]

5 pages and no soul7 mention?!? Maybe because they don’t suck?


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[TahoeJ]

AA better question might be are there any skis that are bad at what they are SUPPOSED to do ? Maybe the RMU ? A buddy who sold G3 for 8 years claims he never liked any of them but if you wana sell G3 skins/bindings the rep will pressure you to carry some skis

Different skis do different things maybe its the driver who wants a certain kind of ski and didn't like not gettting that experiance ?

A 5 point design like the wailer 112 and the JJ (VERY similar IME) are gona act like a 5 point design

a GS race ski is gona suck off piste same with a 223 DH or a slalom ski

DPS has/is still selling a whole shwack of wailers the 112 is a very sucessful product, I personaly did find the 112 limited in performance too small of a turning radius BUT easy to ski for someone who spends more time with their hands in peoples mouths than skiing, except while you will see a dentist on the elegant Lamborghini yellow Wailer, you won't see him on a JJ with the neon deathhead topsheet

I do still have a JJ in rotation as an early season rock/pow/touring setup but I am so over the 5 point design

Wailer 112 issues aren’t about 5 point design so much as the flex and rocker profile and side cut. Plenty of 5 point skis rip.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Are Wrens coming out railed or something?
Root, what didn't you like about the Bodascious? Can try them?

[Chugachjed]

K2 sidestash.

[RootSkier]

Root, what didn't you like about the Bodascious? Can try them?

They are flat, heavy, and get locked mercilessly into a turn.

Probably the problem is that they are just not a good ski for a place like Snowbowl. But if you want to try them, sure. I have tiny feet though.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

5 pages and no soul7 mention?!? Maybe because they don’t suck?

They're similar to, but much better than, Wailer 112's. Tops speed is low, but they don't suck.

Wailer 112 issues aren’t about 5 point design so much as the flex and rocker profile and side cut. Plenty of 5 point skis rip.

Yup.

[RootSkier]

Is everyone talking about all Wailer 112s or just the originals? Are the 112RPs in the same category of suck?

Just wondering because that is my wife's current pow ski .

[buttahflake]

Blizzard Zero G 95, hated how tinny they felt on the down. Carbon skis are not good.

[SumJongGuy]

I happen to like skis that lock in to a turn and require a little work to disengage when shifting to a new turn. Start there and detune a little until just right. It's the skis that don't hook and feel overly base beveled that bother me a little bit.

[TahoeJ]

Is everyone talking about all Wailer 112s or just the originals? Are the 112RPs in the same category of suck?

Just wondering because that is my wife's current pow ski .

I'm talking about the ones from several years back that were showing up *everywhere* ... not the RP's or later versions, if they made any changes (I have no idea, I lost all interest in the brand after that experience).

[Mofro261]

Is everyone talking about all Wailer 112s or just the originals? Are the 112RPs in the same category of suck?

Just wondering because that is my wife's current pow ski .

My daughter's running joke for how to spot the Jerry of the Day is to just look for the banana skis. I'm not sure if 9/10 people on this ski are really just that bad or if the ski just makes them flail.


I wanted to like the W105 T2 but it is sort of silly ski, insane stiff flat tail and heavy with 2 sheets of metal, but then only 185cm. It's like a ski for big dudes that want a short ski.

[tenB]

Wren 108 17/18

Significant de-tuning and moving the mount +1.5 forward helped but they’re a one trick pony. Skied them a full season but found myself more on the asym BG as the season went on, even on firm snow. Awesome in steep chunky snow, kinda suck in everything else. Tails block too much at high speeds. Switched to Commander 108 this year and couldn’t be happier.

Still love the Asym BG

[TAFKALVS]

It's interesting how many people are not super stoked on the Wren 108...

[RootSkier]

I wanted to like the W105 T2 but it is sort of silly ski, insane stiff flat tail and heavy with 2 sheets of metal, but then only 185cm. It's like a ski for big dudes that want a short ski.

I actually love this ski. In fact, it was my only ski last year (after I abandoned the Bodacious as discussed above) and I used it in all conditions with zero complaints. It is now my groomer ripper with the kids but I don't get the hate, I find it insanely capable in a wide variety of conditions. Of course, this year I got some Enforcer 110s and I have now found my perfect old man skis that will make any size turn in any terrain with approximately zero effort.

[3PinGrin]

I actually love this ski. In fact, it was my only ski last year (after I abandoned the Bodacious as discussed above) and I used it in all conditions with zero complaints. It is now my groomer ripper with the kids but I don't get the hate, I find it insanely capable in a wide variety of conditions. Of course, this year I got some Enforcer 110s and I have now found my perfect old man skis that will make any size turn in any terrain with approximately zero effort.

Thus the problem with this type of thread. Everyone has different design features that appeal to them. And this should be in tech talk JONGS.

[goldengatestinx]

Just took the virginity of my 180 cm Icelantic Nomad 105s with alpine bindings...third time skiing my alpine gear in about 10 years. Then yesterday took the 189 cm K2 Hippy Stinx with Bombers on them...Talk about changing up ski design and appropriateness of terrain, condition and skiing mechanics.

Some people just can't adjust or don't know how to adjust their skiing to skis of different designs. Nothing wrong with that...50+ years skiing gives a person a kinesthetic awareness and proprioception that can work for any ski. Everybody has a style...but good technique doesn't vary.

Most people are fairly low on the beater jong to expert continuum though consider themselves significantly higher.

[doebedoe]

... Nothing wrong with that...50+ years skiing gives a person a kinesthetic awareness and proprioception that can work for any ski. ...

Sure. But it can also create awareness of what works well in a ski and doesn't. Or if a ski is tuned well or not. Being able to ski any ski is different than being able to say certain things suck at other such things.

A bunch of the complaints in this thread sounds more like tune issues rather than inherent ski issues.

[goldengatestinx]

Sure. But it can also create awareness of what works well in a ski and doesn't. Or if a ski is tuned well or not. Being able to ski any ski is different than being able to say certain things suck at other such things.

A bunch of the complaints in this thread sounds more like tune issues rather than inherent ski issues.

I've thought the same for many of the posts. Understanding what is happening and how to resolve the issue with a file or stone is an experience/knowledge thing as well.