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01-18-2019, 09:45 AM #26powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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01-18-2019, 10:43 AM #27
Side question - do most patrols assume the possibility that someone is wearing a beacon in areas where it's not required (as opposed to Schlasmans @ Bridger). I'm wondering if wearing one on deep days is useful at all (other than for body recovery).
On a side note, Googling around, i ser that Matmot sells a Recco belt for $40.
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01-18-2019, 10:48 AM #28
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01-18-2019, 10:52 AM #29Registered User
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01-18-2019, 10:52 AM #30
I asked a similar question in the NM thread, and at least one patroller responded that it's pretty standard practice for ski patrol to do a beacon search pretty much immediately when arriving at an inbounds avy. So yes, wearing a beacon is probably your best bet for being dug out alive in an inbounds avy.
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01-18-2019, 10:56 AM #31
anecdotally I know at least two ex-ski-patrol guys who go beeping inbounds on deep/sketchy days, it can't hurt right? batteries are cheap
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01-18-2019, 11:07 AM #32
I rarely wear a beacon inbounds, but this incident may have me rethinking. But then I feel like I should also have the whole kit, and I hate wearing a pack on the lifts.
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01-18-2019, 11:15 AM #33glocal
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Terrain trap situation or did it just run to flat?
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01-18-2019, 11:24 AM #34
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01-18-2019, 11:25 AM #35
I've ridden for the past few years with a Pieps Freeride when I'm riding lifts. It's small enough to fit the pocket of the pants I use for inbounds so it's something I never forget. I follow the same on at the car/off at the bar that you would for BC.
I also own a Barryvox for out of bounds scenarios, carrying something like a Freeride is a potential danger for would be partners partners at a hill with a liberal gate policy. I don't have any experience with the new Pieps Micro but it does seem to be a worthwhile update over the single antenna and limited range of the Freeride.
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01-18-2019, 11:27 AM #36
I wear a beacon inbounds on deeper days. Why not, I imagine if I were in that slide a beacon could very well mean the difference between life and death. I carry beers anyways so what's a little extra weight. I don't care a shovel or probe though. It's a little selfish for sure.
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01-18-2019, 11:28 AM #37
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01-18-2019, 11:29 AM #38
When I lived Arroyo Seco and skied Taos daily back in the early to late 90s I'd always wear a beacon during and immediately after big snow events. I would access all the lift-accessed hike to terrain pretty regularly. There were many a day when I'd be in a remote area and trigger small to medium sized sluffs that sometimes stepped down simply because no other skiers had been in that area and they were micro-terrain features that may have eluded a hand charge or ski cut.
Taos Patrol is a cutting edge, hard working group of individuals who know their skills. The Sangre de Cristo snow pack is on par with trickiness as the San Juans- lurking depth hoar, pockets of high danger, lots of inconsistencies, steep and cliffy...
Sending good vibes to all involved...tough situation.
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01-18-2019, 11:36 AM #39
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01-18-2019, 11:50 AM #40
My daily inbounds setup is an airbag vest with shovel & probe etc. Beeping always, chit happens. Creeks, holes, tree wells, pocket releases... and big slopes, too.
Used to ski with a pack but the vest circumvents the local chairlift rule of pack-on-lap, which fucking irks me.
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01-18-2019, 12:03 PM #41
Maybe a good use for one of these - https://www.pieps.com/en/product/pieps-tx600
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01-18-2019, 12:13 PM #42
I've routinely skied with a transceiver inbounds on deeper days since pretty much right after I first bought one. The April 2006 Climax slide at MMSA spooked the hell out of me. Generally wear the Avalung too on days when I'm worried about NARSIDS.
Carrying a pack with the shovel and probe too is less common, but still do it sometimes.
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01-18-2019, 12:22 PM #43
Ever since the inbounds slide that killed Heather at the Bird I have been beeping both inbounds and outside resort boundaries. On in the car off at the bar is what I say.
Vibes to the 26 year old Mass skiier that passed. And to his friends & family ++++++++++
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01-18-2019, 12:52 PM #44
Minor thread drift. How far away are we from a fairly effective smart phone app beacon? One that runs at the same time as Ski Trax type stuff would be pretty popular if it actually worked. Doesn't have to be super powerful, but better than a RECCO tag would be adequate for most in bounds steep terrain folks. I mean they can add frequencies to your smart phone that turn it in to a universal remote control or 2 way talkie and other non phone frequency things. A beacon frequency pulse seems possible, maybe need an antenna to connect to the headphone or usb jack?Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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01-18-2019, 12:53 PM #45
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01-18-2019, 12:59 PM #46Banned
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01-18-2019, 01:01 PM #47
oh yeah, I don't foresee any problems with this at all. forgot your beacon? "it's ok I have my phone, hang on lemme just close snapchat cuz otherwise it'll drain my battery," phone frozen, plugging in a delicate your-life-depends-on-it piece of hardware to the same jack that collects lint on your pocket, needing reception somehow for the app to run because the developer insists on delivering ads mid-search (click the balloon to reveal how far away your victim is buried!), surely this can all be ironed out.
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01-18-2019, 01:05 PM #48
Too many fundamental misunderstandings of how cell phones, avalanche beacons, and recco actually work to count.
Pack in lap policy seems to create more clusterfuckery than it cures. IMO.
There's a new lifty at Crystal who has taken to yelling at people about it... he'll be lucky to make it through the season in one piece.
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01-18-2019, 01:12 PM #49
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01-18-2019, 01:17 PM #50
Woof. Super sad.
I have taken to wearing my beacon inbounds at Mammoth on pow days. Especially after the huge inbounds slide that came down last year. Props to the ski team as they are enabling us to buy refurbished beacons for the kids for cheap. Just put in my order for 3 for the mIni comish team.He who has the most fun wins!
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