The 300g Touring Binding Thread

[altacoup]

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I thought I remembered you having a race heel set up. With the custom freeride spacers you use do you think that setup would work good on firm snow? I’m looking at doing this on a spring set up. How much does the adapter plate raise the pins on the heels. Very sensitive to ramp on tech bindings. I personally believe all high risers should be banned, I hate stupid steep skin tracks.


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[waxoff]

Echoing MO with pairing Rad toes to race heels. I'm on R170 heels and the delta is sweet unshimmed. Plum has a wider plate for the 170 which drops straight into rad/guide holes. The plate itself is close to 4 mm thick. The Skimo pin height table shows the 170 (with a mount plate) being 3.5 mm higher than the 150 (without plate).

Hence, Plum race heels without plate would yield a zero pin height delta when paired with Rad toes. No bueno in my book.

No freeride spacer on my setup, zero complaints this far, but they're on lighter skis...

[Marshal Olson]

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I thought I remembered you having a race heel set up. With the custom freeride spacers you use do you think that setup would work good on firm snow? I’m looking at doing this on a spring set up. How much does the adapter plate raise the pins on the heels. Very sensitive to ramp on tech bindings. I personally believe all high risers should be banned, I hate stupid steep skin tracks.

So just one guys opinion and all that... but...

1). I really feel the difference on firm snow and greatly prefer bindings setup with either a heel pad or 0-gap/forward pressure or ideally both

2). The K14 plate is 6mm thick and I am 100% 0-2mm delta kinda guy, so I really like the R150 on k14 + radical toe as I can use the standard 5.5mm thick radical toe shim and keep the delta around 1mm.

Along with the race binding setup above, I've been digging the Alpinist bindings 0-gap and forward pressure spring which makes the binding ride really nicely in variable snow. Them w/ an ATK universal heel spacers skis great on skinnier skis.

[cat in january]

Curious how you get the atk universal heel spacers to work with the Alpinist. For my current soon to be boots, even with a 6mm heel shim, the AL05 filed down as far as I dated to still hold screws and it moved to lowest position it was still tight.

[altacoup]

Yeah I love the pair of alpinist I have. Between the ramp and better damping it’s by far my favorite tech binding. But I thinking of ways to reuse my old speed turns. I also have a pair of hojis that were quiver killed for radicals, think I’ll try the race heel set up on those as they have radicals that I find completely unskiable.

[Marshal Olson]

Curious how you get the atk universal heel spacers to work with the Alpinist. For my current soon to be boots, even with a 6mm heel shim, the AL05 filed down as far as I dated to still hold screws and it moved to lowest position it was still tight.

It really depending on the boot. Both of my little boots (which are not mnc) fit just fine, but my xt3 boot has a 5mm thicker heel and doesn’t fit

[Marshal Olson]

Yeah I love the pair of alpinist I have. Between the ramp and better damping it’s by far my favorite tech binding. But I thinking of ways to reuse my old speed turns. I also have a pair of hojis that were quiver killed for radicals, think I’ll try the race heel set up on those as they have radicals that I find completely unskiable.

Word! Sounds like an elegant solution to what you are looking for.

[Rob Stokes]

The brake on alpinists contact the sole of my hoji boots and act as a freeride spacer of sorts.

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[redbarnPD]

Or you could use an organically destroyed set of alpinist brakes & glue some 1mm - 1.5mm PTFE sheet on it (whatever works to barely touch your boot sole -0.5mm).

First tour today, didn't fall apart & felt great on some firm wind buff.

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...=alpinist+heel

[Cocximus]

Here's a few takeaways from skiing with the vario 2. Toe is amazing. It really shines in sketchy transitions where you are repelling. It's also excellent in sticky coastal snow. Just about every other binding will get snow under the springs. Vario the toe is virtually jam proof.

Heel:
With brakes. The brake is kinda useless. It also gets packed with snow almost every time. The ramp is a bit too high for my liking.
Without brakes. You have to turn it to have a riser, and the only way to turn it is by hand. Booo.
The elasticity is great. I really wish it functioned more like the marker where you have a flat mode when it's turned backwards, then a riser when you flip it. Any ideas how I could modify it to make it turn like dynafit with a pole?

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[Pins and Skins]

Selling some new Vario.2 heels in case someone wants a backup pair or wants to experiment for science! Also listed a few other tidbits

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...s-Heels-Brakes