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Thread: 2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

  1. #2751
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    I’ve got the 188 FRS stock build. I’ve got the 190 Jedi with a veneer. Both skis are such monster trucks that I don’t think you would miss the weight if you got the veneer/lighter build. I grab my Jedis more often just because they are a bit lighter which makes them feel more playful/fun. Either way FRS is sick. U will be stoked.


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    2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Shredeagle View Post
    I’ve got the 188 FRS stock build. I’ve got the 190 Jedi with a veneer. Both skis are such monster trucks that I don’t think you would miss the weight if you got the veneer/lighter build. I grab my Jedis more often just because they are a bit lighter which makes them feel more playful/fun. Either way FRS is sick. U will be stoked.


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    Could you take a picture of the Jedi rocker profiles ?


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    The veneer is the only place I’m wavering on my mvp 108 order.

    The lowered weight brings them a little closer to what they are replacing.
    But that’s an extra $200 and I don’t think the top sheet I chose would look very good on veneer.

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    2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

    Veneer is fucking sweet, it is noticeably damper, a bit lighter and looks great. It is not a game changer. Keith’s skis always ski great and I’ve definitely read here that some peeps actually prefer the nylon. I guess I’m saying you’re gon be happy either way, wether or not it’s worth an extra $200 is really a personal choice. I’m lucky enough to have a few pair with veneer and it is my preference, but I’ve also never paid anywhere near $200 for the upgrade and I’m not certain it would be worth it to me at that price, but I really am a fan. I will say, every thing is just getting soooo damn expensive these days that you’re never gonna get em cheaper and Praxis is still hands down THE BEST bang for your buck you’ll ever spend on skis.

    ETA…

    I would also love to see a camber profile on the Jedi’s!
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  5. #2755
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    Thanks all for the thoughts on veneer. I'm not sure that leaves me with any firm conclusions, but it certainly sounds nice. Might just come down to taking a peak into the pocketbook and see how much spare change is rattling around in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
    Leaning toward that exact ski. Talked skinny Q vs MVP w Keith, not sure if the skinny Q is worth the extra $$ for my use case. The veneer upcharge isnt small ,but I love how damp yet not heavy my Q is with the veneer , and it's been more durable than nylon also, so worth it I think.

    How did you like the GPO as a daily? Obv not too much firm or bumped out snow this year, but curious anyway.
    I got the GPO last season during the January-February break in snow and skied it enough prior to the March storms to feel ok with it in less than ideal conditions.
    It has been the perfect ski this season and have left my Protest home to ski the GPO even on some bigger snow days.
    There have been a handful of days this season without fresh snow 🙂 that I’ve stayed on the GPO, a few i split the day with the GPO and a QST 106 which was my previous dd, and a couple on a Blossom Pure 99.

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    Hopefully those show you what you want. If not, let me know, and I can snap a few more.

    Great skis - mind bending freeride. Ha. I love them though - they make you want to go super fast. But you can also make little turns and if you get the balance right the tips just disappear and it feels like you are on a shorter ski. Fun stuff. I've been working through some back injuries for the past few months and haven't had my body right to be able to enjoy these - but finally got myself feeling better and just had one of the most fun ski days of my life on them yesterday. Huge big mountain pow turns, shredding tight techy lines with a big family crew, we did it all, and we did it at high speeds. Stoked!

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    Not sure why I am asking but what non custom ski is most like a skinny Q?

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    Jedi Mind Sticks? Is anyone on a pair?
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    2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Thanks all for the thoughts on veneer. I'm not sure that leaves me with any firm conclusions, but it certainly sounds nice. Might just come down to taking a peak into the pocketbook and see how much spare change is rattling around in there.
    I have 184 Piste Jibs with 3+ flex and veneer that were mounted STH that now have shifts and another pair 4 flex nylon mounted with STH. Both enduro core.

    Similar to thoughts posted above, I think I do prefer the veneer pair as they’re lighter and ski a little more damp, and they’re definitely cool looking and more durable IME. But I got both pairs used on gear swap and I couldn’t see myself paying a significant amount more for veneer unless I found some spare change. I don’t notice that much of a difference between the pairs but I’m not the most sensi ski sensei.
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  11. #2761
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    I got the Jedi's - that is the rocker pic I posted below. What do you want to know?

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    Maybe a skinny jedi is a good option as well. That looks like a fun shape

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskido View Post
    Keith’s skis always ski great and I’ve definitely read here that some peeps actually prefer the nylon. I guess I’m saying you’re gon be happy either way, wether or not it’s worth an extra $200 is really a personal choice. ... Praxis is still hands down THE BEST bang for your buck you’ll ever spend on skis.
    After much humming & hawing, this is the conclusion that I came to. Ultimately went Nylon just because I got really attached to a specific topsheet graphic that I didn't think would look as good in the veneer.

  14. #2764
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    It turns out Cast is selling the stock version of the FRS (which has a sweet looking veneer) for $650. So that seems like it's probably my best option at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredeagle View Post
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    Hopefully those show you what you want. If not, let me know, and I can snap a few more.

    Great skis - mind bending freeride. Ha. I love them though - they make you want to go super fast. But you can also make little turns and if you get the balance right the tips just disappear and it feels like you are on a shorter ski. Fun stuff. I've been working through some back injuries for the past few months and haven't had my body right to be able to enjoy these - but finally got myself feeling better and just had one of the most fun ski days of my life on them yesterday. Huge big mountain pow turns, shredding tight techy lines with a big family crew, we did it all, and we did it at high speeds. Stoked!
    I do not need a new pair of skis, I do not need a new pair of skis, I do not need a new pair of skis…

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    I had been skiing a 182 GPO as a quiver of one for a few years for Jackson. Then skiing more in Roaring Fork area, I relented and picked up a 175 Slugger (102 mm) 2 years ago and have really enjoyed it

    Skiing more technical terrain, I started to appreciate the quickness of the shorter, narrower Sluggwe and the.transition back to 182 GPO at 116 mm has been more jarring a bit (slower edge to edge).

    So, in keeping with enjoying the heavier core of the Slugger and it’s quicker, more compact shape, I decided to put in my first custom order with a +10 spec

    I ordered a 175 Slugger plus 10, so it will be a 176 cm 112 mm underfoot Slugger with Heavy Hitter core with carbon to try and keep feel same as the stick version from two years ago.

    I decided to go for my first veneer build as Keith mentioned using carbon and veneer as means to control weight when going +10mm and keeping a heavy hitter core.


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    2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

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    Anybody go with a RX 189 heavy hitter #3 flex ?


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    Been away a while to hit reset on me head after some life changing crapola. In a very good place again so thought I would get back to the forums. Nothing like a Praxis thread to reignite the stoke.

    Just ordered MVP 108 heavy hitter, vinyl, carbon, 188, softened the flex to 3. Love my stock flex 4 Quixote for powder and crap/junk but planky on firm at times. Thought the heavy hitter with carbon will keep the beef but add some pop, but softer flex for longer than typical length might be nice for the trees. Been loving my flex 3, enduro, carbon BCs in a 180.

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    I've got 184 RX HH+C in a 4 flex I think. Love em. Kinda basic bitch but so fun. Maybe my favorite ski in the quiver the last few years and I did not think that would be the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredeagle View Post
    I got the Jedi's - that is the rocker pic I posted below. What do you want to know?
    It looks like you have them on the line. Do you think they work back a little?

    I like the look of the rocker, can you push the tips, or do you have to stay centered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by singlesline View Post
    The veneer is the only place I’m wavering on my mvp 108 order.

    The lowered weight brings them a little closer to what they are replacing.
    But that’s an extra $200 and I don’t think the top sheet I chose would look very good on veneer.
    FWIW my MVP 108 188 stock core + veneer weighed in at 2175g each which is the claimed weight for nylon

  23. #2773
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    I love the veneer ,but to be honest I have no idea if it's the ski itself.or the veneer, since I've never tried the Q w nylon. Could be more cosmetic , who knows, I just know it's the dampest non metal ski I've been on

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaBoyBlue View Post
    FWIW my MVP 108 188 stock core + veneer weighed in at 2175g each which is the claimed weight for nylon
    Interesting. And I can confirm - that's right about what my 188 nylons weigh.

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    For reference, my FRS with nylon came in at 2247g & 2242g right out of the package a couple years ago.

    side note: I've never had a pair of skis with a single digit difference between pairs, great precision from Praxis.


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