Electric Bike Thread

[jm2e]

For Fucks Sake.
MTBR Much????

It’s a bike with a motor. Some people want more. Some people want less.
They’re all heavy.
It’s like you guys are trying to pick a fight with Booner about whether his girls have big titties and asses or if he just likes fat chicks.


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[grinch]

Im all about thicc cause its the best and i can climb on np/

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[XXX-er]

For Fucks Sake.
MTBR Much????

It’s a bike with a motor. Some people want more. Some people want less.
They’re all heavy.
It’s like you guys are trying to pick a fight with Booner about whether his girls have big titties and asses or if he just likes fat chicks.


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are those motors lighter or are they the same motor detuned

I'm not trying to ban them or nothing I just don't get it

so couldn't one just ride with one hand or something ?

and appaently you have a boner ?

[grinch]

This looks fun. Smaller battery for less weight is an option. 30kg as is in the pic

"1270wh 52V battery = 100km and 3000m up in mountains [emoji41]"

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[summit]

66lbs... it needs that dual crown

[grinch]

Yup. With those tires , fork and that battery mine would weigh roughly the same. Horses for courses. Its a big vert adventure waiting to happen. 10k ft and i think his ride time was 4.5 hrs. That deserves a beer or 3

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[jm2e]

Eventually you’re better off with RAD Bikes.


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[ticketchecker]

heard the best description of what an e-bike is the other day, 'It's a better version of yourself, no matter how good you are'

[XXX-er]

I think that ^^ was more or less an early Specialized advert for e-bikes, so cuz its spesh

you can't use that joke

[grinch]

On the uphill and eventually on the down or tech because you'll get more of it

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[jm2e]

A fit rider will go further than me on my Ebike any day of the week.
A fit and talented rider will climb a techy trail faster than me on my Ebike any day of the week.
I love my Ebike, but it’s not making me better than anyone other than no pedal assisted me.


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[grinch]

Unless youre competing who cares. Even if you are competing its probably best to focus on youre own game. If you do more your skills will progress. Ebikes allow you to do more than you would otherwise. Youll improve because science
Emtb is similar to a chairlift in some ways. Skiing we bang off repetitive laps on our individual lines over and over and fine tune our skills and then apply those skills elsewhere. Rinse and repeat. No need to overdue it and wreck or hurt yourself. Just keep doing laps and youll be faster and have more control. Same with a bike park and same with an emtb. No need in making that one lap count. Boost up for another lap or 3. If it doesnt hsppen that day. Youve got pocket boost for 2mora

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[ticketchecker]

I think that ^^ was more or less an early Specialized advert for e-bikes, so cuz its spesh

you can't use that joke

Funny thing is it was Adam Craig that said it to me.


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[UTaho']

I encourage anyone who has an E-MTB or thinks they may ride one in the future to comment in favor of the proposed re-designation for Class 1 E-MTB's on some trails in the LTBMU (Lake Tahoe area).

Even if you are not in the area or never plan to visit, this is the first attempt I've seen like this on Forest Service land since everything was lumped together a couple years ago.

The outcome of this proposal could have a positive effect nationwide, so input is needed now! The proposal is also endorsed by TAMBA, (Tahoe Area Mountain Bike Association).
Here is a link to the comment page where you can also navigate to the main project page:
https://cara.fs2c.usda.gov/Public//C...?Project=54566

[meter-man]

I encourage anyone who has an E-MTB or thinks they may ride one in the future to comment in favor of the proposed re-designation for Class 1 E-MTB's on some trails in the LTBMU (Lake Tahoe area).

Even if you are not in the area or never plan to visit, this is the first attempt I've seen like this on Forest Service land since everything was lumped together a couple years ago.

The outcome of this proposal could have a positive effect nationwide, so input is needed now! The proposal is also endorsed by TAMBA, (Tahoe Area Mountain Bike Association).
Here is a link to the comment page where you can also navigate to the main project page:
https://cara.fs2c.usda.gov/Public//C...?Project=54566

Tahoe National Forest, Truckee Ranger District has previously authorized a bunch of trails for zap use. This is a much bigger effort within the Tahoe Basin. Thanks for dropping the link UTaho! [You-Da-Hoe? UT-hoe? U-Tahoe? UT-[Id]aho? which is it...??]

[UTaho']

Tahoe National Forest, Truckee Ranger District has previously authorized a bunch of trails for zap use. This is a much bigger effort within the Tahoe Basin. Thanks for dropping the link UTaho! [You-Da-Hoe? UT-hoe? U-Tahoe? UT-[Id]aho? which is it...??]

Haha, close! None of the above or all of the above!
I split my time between Utah & Tahoe

[Redsmurfer]

"Trione-Annadel has just a handful of rangers to patrol 5,500 acres. The few rangers who are in the park seem less concerned with e-bikes in particular than they are with mountain bikers, motorized or not, carving out illegal new trails. When rangers put up signs, marking those trails closed, said one of them working on a recent afternoon, those signs are often promptly removed."

Those dam "cyclists" fucking up access again

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/e-bikes-abound-where-theyre-illegal-including-santa-rosas-trione-annadel/


Looking at you Tahoe J by your own admission in a state park no less

[XXX-er]

"Trione-Annadel has just a handful of rangers to patrol 5,500 acres. The few rangers who are in the park seem less concerned with e-bikes in particular than they are with mountain bikers, motorized or not, carving out illegal new trails. When rangers put up signs, marking those trails closed, said one of them working on a recent afternoon, those signs are often promptly removed."

Those dam "cyclists" fucking up access again

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/e-bikes-abound-where-theyre-illegal-including-santa-rosas-trione-annadel/


Looking at you Tahoe J by your own admission in a state park no less

wow its almost like physically speaking E-bikes are of no consequence on the trails

[Andeh]

I was chatting with a friend who recently rode with someone demoing one of the new Heckler SLs (riding with my buddy on a Bullit 630w battery, 85nm torque, and another guy on a Rocky ebike - yuge battery & torque). I asked him how it worked out in a group like that. He said the 2 big ebikes ran in eco mode, and the SL had to run in mid power just to keep up. He said the SL ran out of battery at around 3200 ft of vert, but because there's no motor drag, they were able to do a total of 4300 ft. So sounds like the mid-power ebikes need to have the option of range extender if they're going to try and do bigger rides with full power ebikes.

[summit]

Hey the 430wh battery ran out before the 630wh battery... who'd have thought?

Fazua is releasing an extender next year. Or you could just swap out (or carry if not lapping) a full second battery and do everything in full mid power.

[Andeh]

Yeah, no surprise it ran out early. I was just surprised that it ran out that fast. I don't think Santa Cruz sells second batteries for the SL (yet).

[summit]

If both riders are the same weight, putting in the same physical effort, and the bikes have the same level of support in the modes selected, then they SL dies while the Bullit reads 30-40%. But I'd wager the variables weren't equal.

[Quadzilla]

For reference, I have a full power Orbea Wild that I have had for four seasons and I just got a Shuttle SL that is one month old. The Shuttle SL is similar to the Heckler SL. Anyway, IMO, it would be hard to make a evaluation on range on a SL on a one ride demo riding with a group of full power bikes. Like was the bike fully charged when you pick it up and other factors like how much turbo you were using to keep up et et. Some things I have learned with 8 rides on my new bike is that compared to my full powered bike is that it is not as powerful climbing and to ride at that level you need to use turbo alot. On my Orbea I rarely use turbo. So, bottom line is that my SL and probably the Heckler too it wants to be pedaled with leg power and the motor assists. what you get with a SL is a quicker handling bike...........

[jackstraw]

Seems like 95% of people my age are on ebikes around here. The group ride I want to join, because they're the local builders, are mostly, if not all, on ebikes. For building they're definitely ideal, but I'm still not sold on them as daily drivers.

[rideit]

I commented on a plan to introduce class 1 e-bikes to about 27 miles of trails on Teton Pass. Most of those trails were pioneered and built by a fairly core group of builders, who, as far as I can tell, ALL ride e-bikes now. The entire bike culture that has developed on Teton Pass exists as it does today thanks to these individuals, and many, many volunteer days as Teton Freedom Riders.
The same is true for most of what we ride in Teton Valley (besides the Big Hole’s, which are all legal anyway). Every dude that helped build Horseshoe, Targhee, Mike Harris Area, etc, are riding e-bikes now, and support them.
I do think that there should be some non-ebike places (Cache area, Horseshoe area), but there is something to the fact that individuals that had the vision and fortitude to create an entire thing here also see e-bikes as a valid part of the mix.