Why all the suicides if everything is going so well in Murica?

[skifishbum]

im just gonna leave this here

it aint always as easy as
any fool being able to do it
and i miss my bros whom for various reasons the simple secret wasnt enough

[DaveTV]

This is hardly a "Murica" Problem
http://www.businessinsider.com/world...ate-map-2014-4

[Meadow Skipper]

[Cono Este]

met my bio dad for the first time 2 days before he died.

i did not know he was in hospice care when i arrived
and nobody in that family knew i existed before then.

we had never laid eyes on each other before this day.
when his wife woke him, he looked at me and apologized.

i believe he needed that moment to put his affairs in order.

Knarlly.


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[TBS]

Freakonomics did a podcast a few years ago about causes of suicide. Worth a listen
http://freakonomics.com/podcast/new-...icide-paradox/

[ncskier]

My personal opinion. For many people things are no better and no worse than ever. However, today you know thanks to social media and cheap communication.
When I was a kid we had no money. I had no idea that peers went to Disney or ski vacations while I sat at home. My parents had friends and they sometime wouldn’t talk for months since long distance calling rates applied across area codes. Now we think everyone else is doing better all the time but in reality it’s selective bias due to near constant bombardment of others glamorous meals, trips promotions perfect families etc.
sometimes being clueless and unplugged helps the situation your in not seem so bad. Just my 2 cents


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[hutash]

I once had a dream about this really hot super model...woke up the next morning and the sheets were all sticky, so yeah, that proves the paranormal disconnectedness of all things.

[SumJongGuy]

met my bio dad for the first time 2 days before he died.

i did not know he was in hospice care when i arrived
and nobody in that family knew i existed before then.

we had never laid eyes on each other before this day.
when his wife woke him, he looked at me and apologized.

i believe he needed that moment to put his affairs in order.

temporary thread jack...

Wife did the DNA test earlier this year and suggested I do one too.. Other relatives more in to the genealogy and family history documentation have also asked me to take one. Before deciding it really is a good idea I made sure to let the wife know that there is a remote possibility of finding out I have a kid(s(s) I was never told about.. Also we thought it might be kinda funny to find out a cousin is really a half brother or half sister. Totally unexpected but certainly within the realm of possibility. I'm expecting the kit as a Father's Day gift... oh the irony hahaha..

OK back to killing ourselves..

[XXX-er]

SO a celebrity chef and a fashion designer off themselves in the same week ... suddenly everyone is killing them selves

[GeezerSteve]

So that's where I am curranty

raisin for being?

[old goat]

There is a sickness in the WORLD. Why are so many of us around the world so unhappy and unfulfilled? Why do billions of us medicate ourselves, with booze, drugs, television, food, etc? Why is there so much existential angst? We lost our way somewhere and I think its this

I think we lost our way when we industrialized. When we became modern. In the book Ishmael, Daniel Quinn describes it as when we became a "Taker" society instead of a "leaver" society, like man had been for thousands and thousands of years; “the premise of the Leaver story is 'man belongs to the world'.. The premise of the Taker story is 'the world belongs to man'.” Capitalism. Everything in this world is CAPITAL and it belongs to ME and MY GROUP we need MORE of it, and who cares how our pursuit of it affects other species, or other people, or the environment..

Yes, mankind is inherently flawed, and was before industrialization. There has always been and will always be greed and stupidity, destructiveness and shortsightedness. But I think simpler life was easier on the human psyche. When we farmed or killed our food, when we traded what we had for what we needed, when our life expectancy was half of what it is now, life itself was more precious, because it was more precarious. There was a profound sense of satisfaction derived from surviving on your own wits and hard work. With industrialism, we just added that angst to all our pre existing flaws, since now most of us spend our days doing unfulfilling bullshit for other people, and taking survival and comfort for granted.


Thats how I see it anyhow

We lost our way a long time before industrialization. We lost our way when we started farming. In hunter-gatherer societies there may be leaders but no man submits to another (women are another story) and all share in the wealth or poverty of the group. Once we started farming, developed specialization and civilization we began having disparities of wealth and power--that is when most men began having to submit to those more powerful and wealthy.

[riser4]

bonus, i will look like colonel sanders if i make it to 70

That's awesome.

[old goat]

SO a celebrity chef and a fashion designer off themselves in the same week ... suddenly everyone is killing them selves

No--two celebrities commit suicide in the same week the CDC report shows a dramatic increase in suicide, helping draw attention to a report that otherwise might have gone little noticed.

[highangle]

We lost our way a long time before industrialization. We lost our way when we started farming. In hunter-gatherer societies there may be leaders but no man submits to another (women are another story) and all share in the wealth or poverty of the group. Once we started farming, developed specialization and civilization we began having disparities of wealth and power--that is when most men began having to submit to those more powerful and wealthy.

"When you ain't got nothin'
You got nothin' to lose."


Moreover, broad brush.
And division of labor probably started while fishing, or with families. Some furry little kid prob shared some food with a treebound parent, and the light went on.

[Bobby Stainless]

We lost our way a long time before industrialization. We lost our way when we started farming. In hunter-gatherer societies there may be leaders but no man submits to another (women are another story) and all share in the wealth or poverty of the group. Once we started farming, developed specialization and civilization we began having disparities of wealth and power--that is when most men began having to submit to those more powerful and wealthy.

[old goat]

I fear that humanity's next great adventure will be War, Famine, Pestilence and Death

[SumJongGuy]

You've said something like this a few times with no real background. Did this happen to you personally? The thing is, statistically, somebody's bound to get struck by lightning - the guy who gets struck just thinks it's amazing because it happened to him. In the big picture, though, it's predictable.

Yes. It happened to me. Went to the doctor the following morning and they said there was evidence of a recent heart attack but no permanent long term damage.

[wyeaster]

I fear that humanity's next great adventure will be War, Famine, Pestilence and Death

you say that like it was gawd's fault and not free will

[BeardMech]

I think the culture around our schools and jobs contribute to this. Low reward with little advancement, strict environments, long hours, little to no benefits, large accumulation of debt etc. With a current healthy economy things arent catching back up in other ways, like salary and benefits compared to the current cost of living.

[SumJongGuy]

I think the culture around our schools and jobs contribute to this. Low reward with little advancement, strict environments, long hours, little to no benefits, large accumulation of debt etc. With a current healthy economy things arent catching back up in other ways, like salary and benefits compared to the current cost of living.

Class warfare the Kochs are winning bigly at. And, they DGAF what happens to most of the newly minted peasants who used to be middle class. Robotics and AI will still be making Big Macs and even delivering them to their mansions.

[ill-advised strategy]

I think the culture around our schools and jobs contribute to this. Low reward with little advancement, strict environments, long hours, little to no benefits, large accumulation of debt etc. With a current healthy economy things arent catching back up in other ways, like salary and benefits compared to the current cost of living.

If minimum wage had been tied to productivity it would be like $20/hr by now. What a crock.

[swissiphic]

Some good points in this timely article over at Zerohedge. Another contributing factor amongst many.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...eling-isolated

[Cono Este]

America is harder living. We have fewer social safety nets, and are usually far from friends and family vs England where all my family lives. We also work longer hours and have greater societal pressure to achieve success etc. probably one of the reasons everyone is armed to the teeth.

When I go to chile, my dad has some poor ass neighbors who pick lemons for a living. And when they come home, they sit outside in a perfect Mediterranean climate, and sip wine with their friends and family who all live in the same little valley. They could a give a shit about anything.


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[wyeaster]

conehead suffers so much compared to the poor chileans!

sad!

[DBdude]

If minimum wage had been tied to productivity it would be like $20/hr by now. What a crock.

minimum wage is a floor. the market sets wage rates