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Thread: Water running into home from 0 lot line property next door, WWMD?

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    Water running into home from 0 lot line property next door, WWMD?

    Maggots, my daughter purchased a home 6 months ago. The property next door shares a 0 lot line with her property (meaning there are no setbacks between the two properties).

    Apparently the next door neighbor pored a concrete pad right up next to the lot line that channels the water away from their home and into my daughters laundry room, so it flooded during out last rain storm.

    Kinda fucked the seller did not disclose this fact, but I am sure they will say they had no idea as it was a rental and the tenants never told them.

    So what are some easy ways to fix this? Add a concrete lip to the existing pad. Get 4X4's, bolt them along the pad edge and caulk them to help redirect the water away?

    What would you suggest?
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    Maybe you'll find some answers here:

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    i dont know where this is, but I know when my family did a large patio years ago in NJ they had to do all kinds of "perk" tests to make sure there was enough exposed ground to account for the "75 year floods". Obviously needed to pull permits too. Did the neighbor pull permits? Maybe they'll have to rip it out if not?

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    the 4X4's make sense as a quick fix

    document the damage and contact a lawyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    i dont know where this is, but I know when my family did a large patio years ago in NJ they had to do all kinds of "perk" tests to make sure there was enough exposed ground to account for the "75 year floods". Obviously needed to pull permits too. Did the neighbor pull permits? Maybe they'll have to rip it out if not?
    I can hear it now, "permits, we don't need no stinking permits". I really doubt it was permitted and asking them to tear it out will likely create hard feelings, so a solution is what I am after.

    The property is in CA where it rarely rains, but when it does, water is flooding into her laundry room (which is also likely a non permitted addition). How to fix the issue is what I am trying to decide on.
    Never in U.S. history has the public chosen leadership this malevolent. The moral clarity of their decision is crystalline, particularly knowing how Trump will regard his slim margin as a “mandate” to do his worst. We’ve learned something about America that we didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t believe, and it’ll forever color our individual judgments of who and what we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    I can hear it now, "permits, we don't need no stinking permits". I really doubt it was permitted and asking them to tear it out will likely create hard feelings, so a solution is what I am after.

    The property is in CA where it rarely rains, but when it does, water is flooding into her laundry room (which is also likely a non permitted addition). How to fix the issue is what I am trying to decide on.
    gotcha....if it was dumping water into my place....well id be checking to see if I could rip the fucker out. Neighbor or not...do you think they'd let it go if the water was dumping into their space.

    On the possibly non permitted laundry room? Did your daughter do that work? If not she likely cannot be held responsible after the sale was complete. Title search wouldve come up with that non permitted space. so its likely a non issue.

    Hope building shit on your time and dollar works because of someone elses fuckup...sounds off to me though..

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    They are going to either need to remove the slab (Hard feelings? Yes) or they are going to need to direct the flows away from her house. (Hard Feelings? Yes).

    Re-directing the flows certainly depends of the lots and which way they drain. Is there a gutter system? If so you should be able to add extensions at the bottom to put the runoff where you want it.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    How far apart are the houses? Is there anything decorative that could fit there, like a small berm with geotextile and rocks to contain the water and then put some plantings on it? Or is it just too tight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    How far apart are the houses? Is there anything decorative that could fit there, like a small berm with geotextile and rocks to contain the water and then put some plantings on it? Or is it just too tight?
    Good idea. Put it on your side of the fence and point it towards their basement window.

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    French drain. Use permit scenario for leverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    Good idea. Put it on your side of the fence and point it towards their basement window.
    That will not work as her laundry room wall is built on her side of the property line with about 6 inches between the laundry room wall and his patios edge. Water runs across his patio towards the lot line and soaks into her laundry room,causing water to pool on the floor.

    In my simple mind his patio needs a berm on it that does not allow the water to flow off his patio and next to her wall.
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    6" is tight, but my be able to put in a french drain with gravel channel.. is there any slope to the ground? Acceptable exit for the water on either end?

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    Do she have any slope near by to divert the water away from the house ? Is it leaking through the foundation or window sill area ? If there is any slope away from the house you can bury a drainage pipe ? Does she have a good relationship with the neighbor or wish to be cordial with them for long term ? I would try to work with them and try to come up with a common solution. I had something similar with a rental house where the guy three doors down wanted to divert water from his house(he has leaking issues) and send to the front of my house and neighbor. I know the next door neighbor very well and she rolled her eyes listening to the concept the leaky basement guy proposed.
    I told him to pound sand basically (talk to the city about diverting water and have an engineer look at it) , never heard from the dumbass again but usually I try to work with neighbors to solve issues where everyone wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    6" is tight, but my be able to put in a french drain with gravel channel.. is there any slope to the ground? Acceptable exit for the water on either end?
    This is a good idea. I have no idea about the slope of the ground so I will be over there Saturday to talk to the neighbors to see what we can come up with.

    I think something like this running the length of the property line is the way to go??? https://www.lowes.com/pd/Rain-Drain-...ystem/50089728
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    Is there an HOA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    French drain. Use permit scenario for leverage.
    I thought this briefly too but it seemed like the amount of water would be too much for a French drain to handle. Good avenue to look into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiBo View Post
    Is there an HOA?
    nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Maggots, my daughter purchased a home 6 months ago. The property next door shares a 0 lot line with her property (meaning there are no setbacks between the two properties).
    Apparently the next door neighbor pored a concrete pad...
    I bet there's a body buried under that slab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    This is a good idea. I have no idea about the slope of the ground so I will be over there Saturday to talk to the neighbors to see what we can come up with.

    I think something like this running the length of the property line is the way to go??? https://www.lowes.com/pd/Rain-Drain-...ystem/50089728
    That is one solution and you are on the right track. What is the source of the water? Rain off the roof or just rain on the slab??

    Is there a gutter system on the neighbors roof?

    If so, will that allow you to move the water away from the house. That is the ultimate goal. That much water against the foundation even if only occasionally is trouble.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    got a photo of the condition?

    in cali, each property is supposed to retain its own runoff; you can't shed directly to a neighboring property
    (there's obviously a lot of gray zone, what with paved driveways etc, but that's the essence of current code regarding storm runoff)

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    are you sure of the property line?
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    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    I can hear it now, "permits, we don't need no stinking permits". I really doubt it was permitted and asking them to tear it out will likely create hard feelings, so a solution is what I am after.

    The property is in CA where it rarely rains, but when it does, water is flooding into her laundry room (which is also likely a non permitted addition). How to fix the issue is what I am trying to decide on.
    Since it’s in California, I am qualified to give an answer.

    Constructing something which channels water onto adjoining property is a trespass and a nuisance, for which both equitable (such as removal) relief and damages are available remedies. Contact the owner and complain.
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    Burn both houses down.

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    What to do is situational. It would be helpful to know what the building codes are in your municipality are regarding impervious areas and site drainage.

    Daddy's girl all grown up now huh?
    I will be over there Saturday to talk to the neighbors to see what we can come up with.
    Really, old enough to buy a home but Pops have to come by to talk with the neighbors? Weird.

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