Workplace Automation

[iceman]

I don't think this is PolyAss, it's not political as much as social.

So, McKinsey and Co. are the world's biggest Management Consulting firm. They're far from perfect and have been wrong before but they're right a lot more than they're wrong imo.

Yesterday, McKinsey came out with a report on workplace automation. Here's a brief piece on the report from Axios.com.: https://www.axios.com/mckinsey-autom...513416488.html

Short story even shorter, they predict 30% of the global workforce will be replaced by automation by 2030. That's 13 years. Somewhat predictably McKinsey recommends that legislators don't try to rein it in or counter it.

But, 30% in 13 years. that's 800 million people worldwide. wtf is going to happen?

Thoughts, please.

[glademaster]

Send lawyers, guns and money, the shit is going to hit the fan.

[GeezerSteve]

trickle down is the answer

[Timberridge]

Adapt. Learn how to program robots and fix them.

[The AD]

It's all just shifting demographics. Consider how many people worked in agriculture 100 years ago versus now. Some jobs go away, but new jobs emerge to take their place.

[glademaster]

Adapt. Learn how to program robots and fix them.

They'll have robots to do that.

[iceman]

I've been wondering why the big Republican donors have been so adamant that now is the time for tax reform and now I think I see it: They think it's the last chance to grab the brass ring before the shit really does hit the fan. Grab the cash and get the fuck out.

[GeezerSteve]

You're over thinking things. Big GOP donors have always said now is the time for tax breaks for the rich veiled as "tax reform."

If I were a young man, I'd be looking at small local service biz, either professional (which defines most of my career) or technical, or artisan niche biz. I'd also stick to my view that #2 key to happiness is low overhead.

[Timberridge]

They'll have robots to do that.

Then buy a robot fixing robot, let it do all the work and you go skiing.

[iceman]

It's all just shifting demographics. Consider how many people worked in agriculture 100 years ago versus now. Some jobs go away, but new jobs emerge to take their place.

It's not like the industrial revolution was some smooth transition my man. The industrial revolution upended the political structure of the world. Wars were fought and people died. Hell the whole world changed.

[bagtagley]

I share an office with two other people. Our lights are on an occupancy sensor that's blocked by the desk of one of the people in the office. When he's out of the office, the lights constantly go off, and we have to get up and wave to turn them on.

He's out all this week, so using an Arduino, a light sensor and a servo, I created a tool that "waves" whenever the lights go out. Workplace automation, baby!

[Timberridge]

I don't think this is PolyAss, it's not political as much as social.

I've been wondering why the big Republican donors...

You're over thinking things. Big GOP donors have always said now is the time for tax breaks for the rich veiled as "tax reform."

okey dokey

[DBdude]

i think their is going to be global social change and that their will be turbulent times. eventually humans will be freed from work and their will be far fewer humans

[The AD]

It's not like the industrial revolution was some smooth transition my man. The industrial revolution upended the political structure of the world. Wars were fought and people died. Hell the whole world changed.

Hopefully the end game for this "Technological Revolution" is that no one needs a job anymore. Obviously we've got a long way to go before we get there and the rich will resist it with every fiber of their being.

[iceman]

@TR: there's political aspects to it but there are to a lot of things man. The bottom line is that there's gonna be 30 million pissed off people wandering around America and now might be time to start thinking about some kind a plan. And not necessarily a political plan but a personal, family plan.

Or, just sit around and see what happens, I guess.

[skaredshtles]

I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.

I've got too much biking and skiing to be bothered with work much longer...

[Timberridge]

i think their is going to be global social change and that their will be turbulent times. eventually humans will be freed from work and their will be far fewer humans

Especially if the apes have their way.

[iceman]

Hopefully the end game for this "Technological Revolution" is that no one needs a job anymore. Obviously we've got a long way to go before we get there and the rich will resist it with every fiber of their being.

Some sort of universal income seems like it will be necessary, even strongly-Right-leaning McKinsey sees that.

[glademaster]

I agree, but UBI will never happen. I know plenty of wealth-redistributing liberals who start frothing at the mouth about how UBI will bring about the downfall of society through the loss of work ethic.

[iceman]

i think their is going to be global social change and that their will be turbulent times. eventually humans will be freed from work and their will be far fewer humans

Gonna be a rough hundred years getting there I'm betting.

[DBdude]

lol

true dat on the apes

i think it will take more than 30 years for automation to replace so many jobs and that other jobs will be created

[glademaster]

I am extremely glad I'm not any younger than I am, although I think I'm still young enough to witness a pretty epic devolution of society in this country, unfortunately.

[DBdude]

Gonna be a rough hundred years getting there I'm betting.

i think I will be ready to check out when my time comes between the changes coming with automation and global climate change

I try not to sound like an old man, but I tell my teenagers that when they are my age, the world is going to be a vastly different place

[iceman]

I agree, but UBI will never happen. I know plenty of wealth-redistributing liberals who start frothing at the mouth about how UBI will bring about the downfall of society through the loss of work ethic.

I read an interesting article about the work ethic recently. Basically it's a modern invention. throughout history most people basically worked enough to get by and if they lived where that was easy, they didn't work much at all.

[skaredshtles]

I am extremely glad I'm not any younger than I am, although I think I'm still young enough to witness a pretty epic devolution of society in this country, unfortunately.

I think if you study history, you'll see that this actually isn't the case.