The Dynastar Thread

[Hicks]

If there would only be a length in between 182 and 192.

Might have missed it in this thread but can someone enlarge how they ride compared to a Rustler11?
Thx

[DarthMarkus]

If there would only be a length in between 182 and 192.

Might have missed it in this thread but can someone enlarge how they ride compared to a Rustler11?
Thx

I can. I'll elaborate in the review perhaps.

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[Hicks]

I can. I'll elaborate in the review perhaps.

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Thanks. If the MF 108 skies closer to a Nordica E110 then it's not the ski I'm looking for anyway.

[Bandit Man]

Thanks. If the MF 108 skies closer to a Nordica E110 then it's not the ski I'm looking for anyway.

In soft snow, the MF108 reminds me of the Enforcer 110 in that they both ski very loose in the tail. The MF108 is a much more reactive and substantial ski in the 192 length.

I think it takes a strong skier to manage the 192 MFree108. I don’t think you can get lazy on it. On the other hand, the 191 Enforcer 110 is very accessible and pretty forgiving.

So, their soft snow “feel” is similar, but very different after that.

[toast2266]

I'm sure it's buried in here somewhere, but is the stock tune on the lp105 1* base, 2* edge?

[HAB]

I'm sure it's buried in here somewhere, but is the stock tune on the lp105 1* base, 2* edge?

The Evo chart says yes.

https://www.evo.com/guides/ski-edge-bevel

[toast2266]

The Evo chart says yes.

https://www.evo.com/guides/ski-edge-bevel

Nice. Didn't know evo published that. I should really buy more stuff from them - they have all kinds of useful info on their site.

[Hicks]

In soft snow, the MF108 reminds me of the Enforcer 110 in that they both ski very loose in the tail. The MF108 is a much more reactive and substantial ski in the 192 length.
I think it takes a strong skier to manage the 192 MFree108. I don’t think you can get lazy on it. On the other hand, the 191 Enforcer 110 is very accessible and pretty forgiving.
So, their soft snow “feel” is similar, but very different after that.

Thanks.
At 5'9" I figured my own sweet spot length wise to be around 185-188 straight pull. The Enforcer 110 is too much on the playful side for my taste, the 182 MF 108 too short and the 192 might be a tad long. Enjoy the 188 R11 a lot here but looking into a quiver addition to my 2nd home in Eastern Europe.

[kid-kapow]

based on my time on R11 180 and MF108 182 -> they seek to do something similar (soft snow versatility, ability to pivot easily yet be strong on groomers/edge/at speed), but they go about it in pretty different ways.

R11s are stronger on edge (larger titanal insert), stiffer throughout yet have pretty smooth tips that are easy to release/pivot due to their unidirectional carbon fiber layup, while MF108s are just damned smooth (camber + construction), do variable well do to slightly heavier weight and even easier to manipulate. So in the end they end up feeling quite different, even if they kinda fill the same part of the quiver.

If you usually ski 188 R11s then 182MF108 will ski way too short. 182s do not have the same umph as the 192 seem to have.

Both are fairly permissive wrt stance, though I find that MF108s perhaps cater better to a slightly more centered stance.

Both are excellent skis.

On a side note - if anybody is in the market for a touring ski that is kinda similar to MF108s wrt feel, then check out ON3P Woodsman108 tours. Their flex pattern (and shape) is pretty similar to MF108s - at least in the 182 length - and the back part / tails feel really similar in soft snow. Wood108tours ski a bit differently than regular layup Woodsman108s mostly due to their rounder flex pattern. So if you have tried wood108 but did not like their tails, but love MF108s and want a touring ski that is similar in shape, mount point and flex pattern then wood108tours might be worth your consideration.

[Hicks]

based on my time on R11 180 and MF108 182 -> they seek to do something similar (soft snow versatility, ability to pivot easily yet be strong on groomers/edge/at speed), but they go about it in pretty different ways.
R11s are stronger on edge (larger titanal insert), stiffer throughout yet have pretty smooth tips that are easy to release/pivot due to their unidirectional carbon fiber layup, while MF108s are just damned smooth (camber + construction), do variable well do to slightly heavier weight and even easier to manipulate. So in the end they end up feeling quite different, even if they kinda fill the same part of the quiver.
If you usually ski 188 R11s then 182MF108 will ski way too short. 182s do not have the same umph as the 192 seem to have.
Both are fairly permissive wrt stance, though I find that MF108s perhaps cater better to a slightly more centered stance.
Both are excellent skis.

Thanks, will then stay away from the MF108 unless they make it in a different length.

[detrusor]

I don’t find the LP 105 stars n a 192 particularly challenging to ski....I can’t imagine the M108 is more of a handful in that length. Anyone have time on both?


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[detrusor]

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[jackattack]

I don’t find the LP 105 stars n a 192 particularly challenging to ski....I can’t imagine the M108 is more of a handful in that length. Anyone have time on both?

In most conditions, the 192 MF108 is much easier to ski than the 192 LPR, but not nearly as composed at stupid high speeds. At Snowbird, I'd choose the LPR for tram laps, and the MF108 for noodling around Gad 2.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Extensive field testing this week proved that the mfree108 slays corn. SLAYS.

What ski doesn’t?


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[DarthMarkus]

What ski doesn’t?


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Soul 7s. There are also a lot of other skis that I think suck in spring conditions.

[TAFKALVS]

The mfree108 that Reine is standing on the podium with, and skiing is 100% bone stock.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Soul 7s. There are also a lot of other skis that I think suck in spring conditions.

Corn, he said corn. I’ve definitely seen people slay corn on S7s. I’ve had great fun on corn with SS Titans. Corn is hero snow.


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[NW_SKIER]

Soul 7s. There are also a lot of other skis that I think suck in spring conditions.

Take that back. The Soul 7 is the pinnacle of ski design and performance.

[Bandit Man]

Take that back. The Soul 7 is the pinnacle of ski design and performance.

Never gets old...🤣🤣🤣

[mt_wilson]

Picked up a pair of M pro 99 in 186cm. Pretty psyched to get on these!

Galdang it seems like the mount point is WAY back. Even considering the tip rocker. This is my first pair of Dynastar, so forgive me jongness. But, is this a consistent theme with dynastar? Anyone have insight on mounting this ski or similar a bit forward?


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[DarthMarkus]

Picked up a pair of M pro 99 in 186cm. Pretty psyched to get on these!

Galdang it seems like the mount point is WAY back. Even considering the tip rocker. This is my first pair of Dynastar, so forgive me jongness. But, is this a consistent theme with dynastar? Anyone have insight on mounting this ski or similar a bit forward?


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My experience on other directional skis from Dynastar would say rec. is probably wise. Maybe 1cm forward if you're shorter than 5'10 Otherwise directional dynastar skis have less fudge room than other companies IME. I used to ski the 190 Cham 107 and LPR at +1, I don't think I'd ever go past that though.

m-free or menace 98 would be a different story.

[ZomblibulaX]

Picked up a pair of M pro 99 in 186cm. Pretty psyched to get on these!

Galdang it seems like the mount point is WAY back. Even considering the tip rocker. This is my first pair of Dynastar, so forgive me jongness. But, is this a consistent theme with dynastar? Anyone have insight on mounting this ski or similar a bit forward?


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On the line. Even if you’re a jibber. It’s got a real tail on it (finally; thank you dynastar).

I also skied the 190 Cham 107 at +1, simply because the cambered tail taper was dumb; the tail just disappeared as soon as you put it up on edge. The tip was nigh impossible to sink though, so +1 helped it complete a turn and come across the fall line.

[GoldMember]

Definitely on the line. I was a bit taken back by how much tip I have with mine and it took me 3 or 4 days to adjust to them but once you figure them out, they're a helluva ride. Really a ripping ski.

[mt_wilson]

Well that settles it, thanks fellas! Only have 1 day on them thus far (lapping kachina @ Taos which was super fun) so I’ll put my on big gurl pants and stay on top of em


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[TAFKALVS]

Well that settles it, thanks fellas! Only have 1 day on them thus far (lapping kachina @ Taos which was super fun) so I’ll put my on big gurl pants and stay on top of em


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I think you have my pair. I was planning on moving the bindings forward 2cm if I kept them, the mount is crazy rearward, I think it's even further back than the Pro Rider. It's like old school volkls from the mid-2000s rearward.

Don't feel dirty moving them forward. Blister said the same thing.