The Dynastar Thread

[2FUNKY]

With that being said a bunch of us skied them in pretty firm conditions at Red and White Water last year and ripped on them. So ymmv and all that jazz.


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[2FUNKY]

are you saying they don’t charge?

Heh


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[TAFKALVS]

I’ve never had a problem skiing hard snow on them. They are remarkably damp & composed for a ski with minimal metal.

In other news, I just picked up a pair of Mpro108 in the 182 length, for science. Been curious for a while if the 182 gives up much in float or stability while gaining maneuverability due to the shorter length. Will report back in due time.

[toastybroski]

Just picked up some 192 mfree 108s to use as my everyday ski. The plan was to have them replace my 183 deathwishes. My powder skis are 190 bibbys that are 118 underfoot. Not going to lie, the mfree seem massive even compared to the bibbys. I thought the biggest overlap would be between the deathwish and the mfrees but I can't imagine these would do bad in powder compared to the bibbys.

Hopefully they are not too big for an everyday ski.

[Eluder]

They charge just fine as long as conditions are soft. Firm groomers and variable start to bring out their shortcomings, IMO.

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I agree with this erroring a little farther towards very firm as their limit; totally subjective, I know. They are manageable, but if there is ice, they kinda suck. I cant think of a ski that can excel in both types of conditions though. Some blur the line better but are not as fun in the soft. Mine also have well over 100 days on them at this point; I don't feel they are as strong as they once were.

[Jong Lafitte]

Bump for PLEEZE halp with my M-free 99.

Help me like this ski more, some aspect of my bad technique is keeping me from enjoying these more all over the mountain.

I had them out only once and got worked a bit. I thought they would be a bit more casual. Im out of shape and didn’t ski last season; had only 7-8 days this season on other skis before I tried these. (Praxis BC (108 180 and Blizzard Lattigo 78 mostly with a deep Billy Goat day somewhere.) all in bounds.

So we had about 5” fresh of heavy snow at Eldora last Saturday 2/3. They were pleasant to turn in the trees and on the ungroomed steeps. More float than I expected. They come down over the downhill sides of “tree moguls” with a ton of confidence given the rocker.

Good news was they were fun where I hoped but we’re just friggin working me on these soft groomers where I usually like to go slow and ski with the speed of traffic and relax. Steepish blues I guess. Felt grippy on the runouts lol. Mostly sliding “C” turns well under the radius size on the steeper wide groomers.

They felt super loose and like I was not engaging the edge under foot or something like that. Should i maybe ski with more “energy?” I know they don’t have the tail of my other skis but, I dunno, like, they were just not confidence inspiring and wore me out on the big thoroughfares.

Surely I’m doing something wrong. Any guesses given the clues here? Gonna try again but it will be firmer for a while, would prolly prefer my 78s but I wanna give these shot to feel stable. So I need to go faster? Higher angles? I really want to like these more. I know they aren’t going to “charge” but I don’t think I even have “charger” skis or tactics. TIA all!!!

ETA they are demo clamps so I can mess with the mount point but I don’t wanna fuck with too many variables at once. 5’9” 180-190 on the 179s. Hacky, self taught terminal intermediate, but I can bend a ski.

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[oetk2]

Grippy and loose? I'm about the same size as you on the 185s. I think the 179 might be too small, especially on groomers with the rocker

[TAFKALVS]

Have you detuned the edges?

[Andyski]

Here’s your monthly “anyone skied the mtour 108?” prompt. Anyone???

[CaliBrit]

Here’s your monthly “anyone skied the mtour 108?” prompt. Anyone???

Got a pair on my bench to mount! Soon, soon

[Jong Lafitte]

Grippy and loose? I'm about the same size as you on the 185s. I think the 179 might be too small, especially on groomers with the rocker

Well, poop! No wonder the place I picked them up at had 0 used 185 in any M series ski. All my other skis are 180, he said. They’ll be fine, he said. I’m not trying to go 60 on groomers, he said. Damnit. JONG on the hill, JONG in the shop. With only myself to blame lol.

I knew they’d “ski short” but was not prepared for this type of punishment.

The bath I’m gonna take coulda bought five days of demos. At least the shop will give me credit, about 2/3 of what I paid according to the site, maybe more if I talk to them. Well shoot.

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[Norseman]

Get the tune right first. Then self flaggelate.

[oetk2]

Get the tune right first. Then self flaggelate.

This. Then worry about the length. Might be fine after a tune

[Andyski]

Got a pair on my bench to mount! Soon, soon

!!!!!!!!!. Praying it’s a light mfree 108 that maintains the slarviness

[TAFKALVS]

!!!!!!!!!. Praying it’s a light mfree 108 that maintains the slarviness

Based on the pictures I’ve seen, my speculation is something between a mpro108 and mfree108 in terms of ski shape and rocker, in a lighter layup. Which is super intriguing.

[kid-kapow]

Felt grippy on the runouts lol. Mostly sliding “C” turns well under the radius size on the steeper wide groomers.

They felt super loose and like I was not engaging the edge under foot or something like that. Should i maybe ski with more “energy?” I know they don’t have the tail of my other skis but, I dunno, like, they were just not confidence inspiring and wore me out on the big thoroughfares.

hm, first thought - the tune sounds off. Second - do the bindings have too much forward pressure creating a dead space underfoot?

MF99s grip fine for what they are and should not be punishing to ski, especially if you drive the front of the ski (the tails should be loose as a goose then). You could also experiment with going +1 to see if that helps a bit - I preferred my 185 (181.5s) theres.

[Va Ki Bo]

Got a pair on my bench to mount! Soon, soon

What's the factory mount point for this? (cm from true center please)

[gwat]

In other news, I just picked up a pair of Mpro108 in the 182 length, for science. Been curious for a while if the 182 gives up much in float or stability while gaining maneuverability due to the shorter length. Will report back in due time.

I love science! Eagerly awaiting your report.

[noslow]

“They felt super loose and like I was not engaging the edge under foot or something like that.”

The bases sound “base high” along with possibly too large base bevels. Bet they are that way underfoot which give the feeling of skiing on marbles and you’re constantly trying to adjust stance to try and stay in balance. Opposite of confidence inspiring and thats why they would be tiring to ski.

Stone grind to flatten the bases and reset the base edge bevels down a bit and then try them out again. Would probably take about 12 plus passes on a semi auto machine or 3 plus flattening passes on a fully auto machine to correct most similar base issues.
Just went through this with my set of new Rossi Sender Free 110 and I measured them before tuning and didn’t look that bad. Transformed after a stone grind.

[CaliBrit]

What's the factory mount point for this? (cm from true center please)

78.5 cm straight pull from tail. Ski measures out at 185cm. So -14!

[CaliBrit]

I was hoping for a mini 118. Maybe not.

More tip rocker, less tail rocker, more rearward mount. Top of the white tape is mount point.

[ASmileyFace]

I had been told that the MTour 108 was going to be MFree inspired. I guess not…

[mr_pretzel]

Jeez -12cm from TC probably, that’s no fun

[CaliBrit]

Jeez -12cm from TC probably, that’s no fun

How do you get to that?

[waveshello]

That M-tour 108 looks kind of like a Cham 107 HM.