Not the 2017 model but the colorful Ducroz version in both 192 and 184 lengths are available from this Swedish dealer I have no idea if they'll ship internationally though. Tempting price, (just over USD 400 with Attack 13's) so I picked up a pair of 192's just for the heck of it. Not yet convinced that I'll keep them though...
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I sent them a message. Let me know if you find anything about international shipping. I want a pair of these. I wonder if you have to have the adrenaline 13s mounted on them... would love to snag a new pair without holes.
The line, yes. The mount is pretty far back/traditonal/directional relative to most other skis on the market.
don't you find those things flex really stiff? I loved their look too, but just could not jive with the light weight + stiffness and I really gave them a good chance too.
They are different than the legend pros of past: no metal and much lighter and stiffer.
Btw, lemme know if you get a negative feedback from them. I could maybe pick up another pair. I'm headed for Canuckistan come mid February, and could bring a flat pair there. That would at least get them across the pond for no pesos at all, and maybe a mag to mag relay from there?
Thanks, the line looks right to me when I stand on them. They do flex pretty stout for such a light ski, feels similar to Alchemist Wailer 106. Build quality is top notch
Honestly when they showed up I thought they were going to feel lighter from what I read about them. I'm going to a demo day tomorrow, hoping to get on a pair before I drill these to make sure I want them. I had been thinking about putting shifts on them but they came with some matchy matchy pivots so if I keep 'em they're gonna be blingy
Cross-posting from TT, I broke a THIRD Cham 2.0 107 today. First break was 3 days on snow, second was 5 days, todays break was first day out, run 5. Just mounted and freshly tuned. nothing acute, just moving fast through day-old chop over small-ish bumps. WTF?
I know they’re a few seasons old now but anyone else have an issue with these? Not that I’m ever skiing then again but trying to diagnose my issue to figure out whether it is me or the skis. Haven’t broken another ski mounted with tele bindings in years, though I commonly rip bindings out of skis - probably 1 pair every other season.
Thanks. Today’s break:
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If you’re ripping out bindings once a year it’s probably you, not the skis. These are just failing in a different fashion.
Ditto on the pulling out of the skis every other year. It's been pretty common with those 22 Design tele binders, I have a couple of friends who have pulled out of Dynastar's, Moments, Heads, and Rossi's. All on the same binding, very strong tele skiers as well. I am beginning to think that all the screws drilled into a very small concentrated area is at least part of the culprit. It's so much upward force on the plate (due to the tele turn), and the amount of drilling into the skis probably weakens the top sheet and core where they are mounted. Alpine bindings are more spread out, and of course your force is distributed to a locked in heel as well. Just a thought, since I have seen this in a bunch of different skis.
"He thinks the carpet pissers did this?"
I'm a big heavy dude who skis pretty fast and have never broken a Cham. I know zero people who have broken Chams. I just don't think the ski is designed for the forces of a tele binding.
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Clearly the Cham is not built to handle a tele binding. When Dynastar warrantied my first broken pair, they sent me a box of used singles of the same ski, most with a tele hole pattern, which suggests I wasn’t the only one having the issue. I hate to mount up the last two, but I’ll t-nut to see if that does the trick. Figure in that case I just have potential to break, not break and rip out a binding.
^^^ smoking deal for a burly ski/skiier
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Besides not “needing” them, why shouldn’t I buy a pair of new Legend Factory’s for $350?
Anyone “need “ 2 single Cham 2.0 107s in 183? Both skis have 2ish mounts but are otherwise in great condition. Came from a Dynastar warranty swap and no longer of use to me. Make me an offer - local pickup in Boulder/Winter Park or I can ship.
Last edited by ski-wpk; 12-17-2018 at 09:44 PM. Reason: Ski length
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