WWMD?- My co-worker thinks the Vegas shooting was a hoax

[wyeaster]

Some of us tend to actually care about these events.

If you think it is reasonable to not have any answers or even care 45 days later, then that's on you.

I figured you were full of shit.

I'm sure you didn't realize today was 5 years after Sandy Hook either.

sorry, bro. my anniversary was 30 years earlier. sandy hook was nothing more than another in a long line of completely predictable events and holds no special meaning to anybody but the families, except for the usual tools and bleeding hearts. you only care as it pertains to your personal interests.

were you satisfied there was an actual non-government-sponsored shooter at sandy hook?

[Bobby Stainless]

Like I said. You don't care.

Justify it however you see fit.

[flyandski365]

Like I said. You don't care.

Justify it however you see fit.

I don't think that's what he's saying... What I got from his post was that he cares about the larger problem but focusing on each individual incident isn't helpful. We know what the solution is, there just isn't the political will to do anything about it.

[wyeaster]

Like I said. You don't care.

Justify it however you see fit.

i don't care about your self-serving, bullshit-based melodrama, that's true.

so do you believe there was a non-affiliated shooter at sandy hook or not?

[Bobby Stainless]

i don't care about your self-serving, bullshit-based melodrama, that's true.

I guess that's why you always respond.

[wyeaster]

I guess that's why you always respond.

haha. yeah, buddy. i "always" respond to you because i care about you and your bullshit.

so did lanza actually kill 26 people at sandy hook on his own, at all or not?

[Bobby Stainless]

What does "on his own, at all or not" mean?

Did Adam Lanza kill a bunch of kids and 6 adults (26). Yes.

WTF are you rambling about? You didn't even realize today was the anniversary till I said something.

Did Paddock kill 58 people in Vegas. Yes.

It's just really strange there are no Casino videos of him preparing. They have to exist.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/us/las...ons/index.html

Media outlets including CNN are also fighting in court for the release of public records, like body camera footage and 911 calls.
Law enforcement wants them held back until its official report is complete, but they won't say when that may come. The lack of information has made it hard for some survivors to heal mentally and emotionally.

As per the norm though. The novelty of the event has worn off and no one cares anymore.

[Danno]

So because the public hasn't continued to focus all of its attention on the Vegas shooting (can't imagine why, it's not like we have other shit going on), that means there was a conspiracy and it didn't happen? or it happened but not from a shooter up in that room? Or there were multiple shooters but that's being hidden from us? Or any one of those?

What exactly are you asserting Mr. Stainless?

[skaredshtles]

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[DBdude]

I don't think that's what he's saying... What I got from his post was that he cares about the larger problem but focusing on each individual incident isn't helpful. We know what the solution is, there just isn't the political will to do anything about it.

bobby's point is, that if you are pro gun regulation, you need to somehow prove to him that you are personally making a difference in the fight to have stiffer regulation in this country

you, one person, against the NRA and the gun manufacturers and who know's what crack pot organization that is crazier than the NRA. if you can do that, than you can reasonably and responsibly discuss this issue, because otherwise you don't give a fuck

[DBdude]

bobby, if it were ten shooters in vegas, would it make a difference?

[Bobby Stainless]

So because the public hasn't continued to focus all of its attention on the Vegas shooting (can't imagine why, it's not like we have other shit going on), that means there was a conspiracy and it didn't happen? or it happened but not from a shooter up in that room? Or there were multiple shooters but that's being hidden from us? Or any one of those?

What exactly are you asserting Mr. Stainless?

That the LEO has done a pretty shitty job of informing the public as to what happened.

Vegas is one of the most secure and filmed places in the US. I never said it was a conspiracy. I think its mainly poor police work or something that maybe illuminates their negligence.

[mcski]

What is it that you still need to know? And how is it relevant to anything you do?

[Bobby Stainless]

What is it that you still need to know? And how is it relevant to anything you do?

LOL.

Is that how you go through life?

We'll just catch everyone on the next one I guess. Case closed.

[ex-powderbroker]

That the LEO has done a pretty shitty job of informing the public as to what happened.

Vegas is one of the most secure and filmed places in the US. I never said it was a conspiracy. I think its mainly poor police work or something that maybe illuminates their negligence.

what are we missing from johnny law?

[Bobby Stainless]

what are we missing from johnny law?

uthorities have largely gone silent on the case -- refusing to answer the many lingering questions except for a couple of local TV interviews. But one pressing query may get some answers Thursday when a probate judge could decide the future of gunman Stephen Paddock's finances.Since the massacre, more than 450 people have filed lawsuits related to the shooting. Many of them against Paddock's estate.

Why does the Las Vegas shooter's motive even matter?


Paddock died without a will and his assets have been estimated to be worth $5 million, CNN affiliate KSNVreported. His brother has said the money should be given to the victims, but nothing can be done until a court decides who will manage his assets.
Thursday's hearing could be the first in a series of steps toward closure for families and shedding light on the case.
Media outlets including CNN are also fighting in court for the release of public records, like body camera footage and 911 calls.

Law enforcement wants them held back until its official report is complete, but they won't say when that may come. The lack of information has made it hard for some survivors to heal mentally and emotionally.

It's been 45 days. Seems like a long time.

[Danno]

That the LEO has done a pretty shitty job of informing the public as to what happened.

Vegas is one of the most secure and filmed places in the US. I never said it was a conspiracy. I think its mainly poor police work or something that maybe illuminates their negligence.

A number of possible reasons for this: I don't think people are clamoring for this info (I know the shooting happened, I don;t really care about the play by play unless it matters), some of it might be sensitive (ie security issues that they don't want to broadcast until the holes are plugged), and some of it might be the fact that LEO doesn't/shouldn't broadcast bits of their investigation as it is ongoing.

Calling it poor police work or negligence because you in Tennessee doesn't have the minute by minute timeline of what happened in Vegas a month ago is quite a stretch.

[Bobby Stainless]

A number of possible reasons for this: I don't think people are clamoring for this info (I know the shooting happened, I don;t really care about the play by play unless it matters), some of it might be sensitive (ie security issues that they don't want to broadcast until the holes are plugged), and some of it might be the fact that LEO doesn't/shouldn't broadcast bits of their investigation as it is ongoing.

Calling it poor police work or negligence because you in Tennessee doesn't have the minute by minute timeline of what happened in Vegas a month ago is quite a stretch.

People clamor for it right off the bat. Doubtful anything will ever come of the worst mass shooting in the US.

[wyeaster]

What does "on his own, at all or not" mean?

Did Adam Lanza kill a bunch of kids and 6 adults (26). Yes.

WTF are you rambling about? You didn't even realize today was the anniversary till I said something.

Did Paddock kill 58 people in Vegas. Yes.

It's just really strange there are no Casino videos of him preparing. They have to exist.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/us/las...ons/index.html

As per the norm though. The novelty of the event has worn off and no one cares anymore.

just trying to establish some bounds for your delusion. like i said, i couldn't give a lesser shit about an anniversary of yet another shooting. you've made some arbitrary decision that sandy hook matters more than others and it doesn't. go light a candle.

[AK47bp]

MGM controls a lot of shit (a good portion of Vegas). They are handling lawsuits out the ass. They likely own any available footage. Why release footage if it benefits the victims trying to sue them?

Business decisions.

[wyeaster]

It's been 45 days. Seems like a long time.

yeah, maybe the timeline is different for selling cars than for investigating "the worst mass shooting in u.s. history!!!!"

[Danno]

People clamor for it right off the bat. Doubtful anything will ever come of the worst mass shooting in the US.

I don't know what you mean by "ever come", since I don't think you're talking about gun regulation. But sure, right when it's at the forefront of people's minds, they want details. After enough other stuff happens, they forget. And even if they don't forget, they realize that the details make fuck all of a difference in their lives. And if nothing "ever came" of the Sandy Hook shooting, we'd be fools to expect anything to come of any other mass shooting, even one that kills twice as many people.

[Bobby Stainless]

just trying to establish some bounds for your delusion. like i said, i couldn't give a lesser shit about an anniversary of yet another shooting. you've made some arbitrary decision that sandy hook matters more than others and it doesn't. go light a candle.

Obviously. I had to tell you it was today.

I was actually talking about Vegas before you came ranting about who the fuck knows what.

If you don't care, then go sit quietly somewhere and not care.

[Danno]

MGM controls a lot of shit (a good portion of Vegas). They are handling lawsuits out the ass. They likely own any available footage. Why release footage if it benefits the victims trying to sue them?

Business decisions.

They don't have to release it to the public, but maybe you don't understand how lawsuits work. They would be forced to release it to any victim suing them. And unless the judge grants some protective order, that victim could then give it to whoever.

[Bobby Stainless]

I don't know what you mean by "ever come", since I don't think you're talking about gun regulation. But sure, right when it's at the forefront of people's minds, they want details. After enough other stuff happens, they forget. And even if they don't forget, they realize that the details make fuck all of a difference in their lives. And if nothing "ever came" of the Sandy Hook shooting, we'd be fools to expect anything to come of any other mass shooting, even one that kills twice as many people.

I think we can all agree that gun regulation isn't happening.

The lack of video in this one seems different than all the others. Especially when there has to be tons of footage.

Maybe not.