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    Skis for on-piste?

    My Black Diamond Stigmas (80mm underfoot, trad camber) are getting to the point that they need to be traded in. I love them and would like to replace them with another narrow (80-85mm), traditional camber ski for firmer days in Vermont. I generally don't ski blue ice so I don't need a RaceTiger or similar. I am having a tough time finding a ski that would have filled the shelves 5-10 years ago.

    Any thoughts on a replacement? Anyone have something lightly used that's gathering dust?

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    Looking for the same thing. My edges have been tuned to death on my groomer skis. Looking to see what people recommend. There are lots of sort of obvious options like the Volkl RTM 84, or the Kastle MX88, but I'd prefer something a little less traditional (i.e. a touch a tip rocker, less traditional mount point, and a bit of a turned tail for those random 180s), that still has firm-snow chops, metal in the layup, and ... is cheap.

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    I've skied those Atomics and honestly they sound like they have a hollow core and have a funky shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Looking for the same thing. My edges have been tuned to death on my groomer skis. Looking to see what people recommend. There are lots of sort of obvious options like the Volkl RTM 84, or the Kastle MX88, but I'd prefer something a little less traditional (i.e. a touch a tip rocker, less traditional mount point, and a bit of a turned tail for those random 180s), that still has firm-snow chops, metal in the layup, and ... is cheap.
    Dynastar Powertrac 89

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    For the OP:

    Head Monster 83's are being blown out for $389 shipped with Attack 13's from Asogear on ebay (Corbetts is the retail store). Only 177's and 170's in stock. 183 was longest length they came in. Fantastic skis if you are looking for a traditional front side biased real ski (trad camber, no rocker, double metal)

    I have no affiliation but I purchase a lot of gear thru them, love the monsters, and the price is silly.

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    Blizzard Quattro Ti comes in a 69mm and 84mm options for the most fun I've had on a groomer ski in a while (84 for our wet gloppy snow). Personally however I use a Line Chronic (92mm) as my go too firm snow ski because it's more funner for messing around on the mountain.

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    The Kastle MX84 is simply amazing, in it's versatility and edge grip. But you'd probably have to pay significantly more than the Heads, which are probably similar.

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    Blizzard Latigos would also work.

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2016-Blizzard...item8e3100fb7d

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    LevelNine has the Monster 83's for $249 shipped flat. Screw this, now I am buying a pair. Maybe the 177 was longest they came in?

    If you blindfolded me I doubt I could tell you if i was on Kastle MX's or Head Monsters.

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    Skis for on-piste?

    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Blizzard Quattro Ti comes in a 69mm and 84mm options for the most fun I've had on a groomer ski in a while (84 for our wet gloppy snow). Personally however I use a Line Chronic (92mm) as my go too firm snow ski because it's more funner for messing around on the mountain.
    I chose to go with a shreditor 92 for messing around on piste, heartcarving, and park this season


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    I chose to go with a shreditor 92 for messing around on piste, heartcarving, and park this season


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    Aren't those like super floppy and sad?

    Also, you need to post a quiver pic.

    Oh and I demo'd the Quattro RX, that is a ripping ski, plus with the black/carbon look is really sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Aren't those like super floppy and sad?

    Also, you need to post a quiver pic.
    They are super floppy indeed. Not as soft as my hellbents or pettitors, but close. I wouldnt call them sad though, since I enjoy the park, bumps, jibbing etc.

    I thoroughly enjoy K2 noodles. Most buttery skis, while still being heavy and damp enough to ski relatively fast. Of course there not as fast as my Wrens or Monsters, but im faster through trees and bumps, as well as more confident with new tricks, jibbing around on K2s. The k2s can always hold there own in crud or firm as well, although not at 60mph.. i usually ski a pair of noodles once a week, as an exercise to enhance my creativity.

    I will post a pic of my quiver in a few weeks when I get it all in one place. I posted one in May.. I try not to update for 6 months, because it usually triggers more ski purchases.


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    If the OP is interested, I have a pair of 181 Atomic Blackeye TI's mounted with PX15 for a 326 bsl I would sell for $200.

    Skis are in great shape and have only been used a few times.

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    Volkl Kendo, perhaps?

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    Thanks for the offers. I ski tele so I'm looking for flat skis.

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    Skis for on-piste?

    Guess it depends on your use and where you ski but I really like my Praxis piste jibs for my all mt/low tide ski. Does everything quite well. Not very demanding but it'll carve at relatively high speeds. More playful. Does well in pow and crud for its size and stiffness(med/3 flex standard). Probably be in praxis pre season sale soon if that's happening this year.

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    Fischer Pro Mountain 86.

    I have a pair but they are not for sale unless you have a wheelbarrow full of cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Aren't those like super floppy and sad?

    Also, you need to post a quiver pic.

    Oh and I demo'd the Quattro RX, that is a ripping ski, plus with the black/carbon look is really sexy.
    But i do need a burlier piste ski for zoomin'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    My Black Diamond Stigmas (80mm underfoot, trad camber) are getting to the point that they need to be traded in. I love them and would like to replace them with another narrow (80-85mm), traditional camber ski for firmer days in Vermont. I generally don't ski blue ice so I don't need a RaceTiger or similar. I am having a tough time finding a ski that would have filled the shelves 5-10 years ago.

    Any thoughts on a replacement? Anyone have something lightly used that's gathering dust?
    I'd go for a sidewall/sandwich/metal Head, Elan or Stockli midfat from the 00's, there are plenty of them floating around out there in good shape. Check ski swaps this fall.

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    The Blizzard Quattro skis rip, but I believe they all come with IQ series Marker bindings - none of ours came flat. Blizzard didn't offer a telemark option.

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    Rocker those tips if you want, then damn the torpedoes. They are still one of my favorites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    never heard of em

    It's a custom from Keith: a skinny version of the Praxis RX

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    Kastle, Fischer, Volkl, Blizzard don't seem to fuck up this type of ski. I'd get which ever one is cheapest. Lots of used Kendos out there, and cheap, new Fischers have been common too.

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    Praxis Rx.

    And the red ones, LDO.
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