Stio

**Meadow Skipper** · 12-06-2020, 09:06 PM

I’m 30/31 and the small Stio Environ bib fits well. Average thighs, but seems like plenty of room.

**MiddleOfNight** · 01-05-2021, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight

Oh well, no big deal - they have an easy return policy.

I shipped it on dec 4th, they say they got it on the 10th. I just asked - they said maybe 7 more days to see the $. I guess it was still easy on my end, just taking longer than I thought. Meh.

**ticketchecker** · 01-05-2021, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight

I shipped it on dec 4th, they say they got it on the 10th. I just asked - they said maybe 7 more days to see the $. I guess it was still easy on my end, just taking longer than I thought. Meh.

I've had returns with them take a looooooong time

**Zeno** · 01-05-2021, 10:55 AM

I've had really poor experience with their products and even worse experience with their customer service. There are many much better companies out there.

**BC.** · 01-05-2021, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by ticketchecker

I've had returns with them take a looooooong time

My most recent return (Environ pants) that were damaged upon delivery took a while too.....and several emails/chats/phone call to eventually get my CC credit/refund a couple weeks later.

I’m always amused how fast (instantly) your CC is charged.....but then how long it takes to get it refunded back.....some companies are better at this than others....(Stio was not in my case)

**retirwntm** · 01-05-2021, 01:24 PM

This sucks to hear. Stio always ends up in my insta and they had a few nice looking items, especially a pair of knickers that looked really good for cold mtn biking. Now I’m not so sure...

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**BC.** · 01-05-2021, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by mtnwriter

This sucks to hear. Stio always ends up in my insta and they had a few nice looking items, especially a pair of knickers that looked really good for cold mtn biking. Now I’m not so sure...

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It’s still great stuff......I have an Environ jacket and pants.....just hope you don’t have to return anything....lol.

**altacoup** · 01-05-2021, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by mtnwriter

This sucks to hear. Stio always ends up in my insta and they had a few nice looking items, especially a pair of knickers that looked really good for cold mtn biking. Now I’m not so sure...

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Their specialty is good looks. Not performance.

**chaka** · 01-05-2021, 10:59 PM

I finally got my hands on an Environ jacket (thanks Gunder!) I've worn it 3 times in continuous rain/snain conditions and have been bone dry. Seems to breathe, vent well also.

**glademaster** · 01-06-2021, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by BC.

My most recent return (Environ pants) that were damaged upon delivery took a while too.....and several emails/chats/phone call to eventually get my CC credit/refund a couple weeks later.

I’m always amused how fast (instantly) your CC is charged.....but then how long it takes to get it refunded back.....some companies are better at this than others....(Stio was not in my case)

Yeah, my dad bought a jacket from them last season and dealt with what could only be called shitty customer service when he had to exchange it for another size. First and last thing anyone in our family buys from Stio.

I almost feel bad for whoever finally answered the phone and got a rash of shit from my mom about their customer service.

**MiddleOfNight** · 01-07-2021, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by ticketchecker

I've had returns with them take a looooooong time

Just got my credit, fwiw that's 1 month 2 days from when I shipped it, 28 days from when they received it. Oh well. At least it's over now.
My quest for a unicorn shell continues!

**ntblanks** · 01-08-2021, 08:41 PM

Raymer quickie:
1.8.21

- 2.5 hours skied,
- no precip but higher air moisture

wore my Raymer jacket on the mountain for the first time today. i like how light it is (the reason I bought it). fit is good overall (for a fit build); arms, length, volume, all good. didn't try the hood. zippers are ok. not the best--a little too sticky. main zipper hard-ish to start. planning to add some teflon spray on the key parts. side zips are fine-prefer pit zips but i knew this jacket didn't have them. phone (held in left breast pocket) had more sweat/condensation on it than usual suggesting it doesn't breathe as well as my other jacket (Quantum Pro}. i did bite it once and discovered later that my main pockets had been open and there was snow inside, so that could have partially caused the interior moisture. appears to have good dwr, though wasn't storming today.

tldr; Raymer is light, well-proportioned (for a fit person) and moves well but i have questions about how well it breathes. not worth msrp but worth sale price imo if it fits your use case.

will update if anything changes.

**Djongo Unchained** · 01-08-2021, 09:55 PM

Is this it?

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Sorry for the goofy pics. This has gotten almost zero use.
Willing to sell...

**ntblanks** · 01-08-2021, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Djongo Unchained

Is this it?

is that a question for me DU?

mine looks different but maybe you have an older model? mine is 2020.

**Djongo Unchained** · 01-08-2021, 10:23 PM

Actually it was for Middle, looking for his unicorn.

It is older than yours so thinking if the cut changed, maybe he was looking for an earlier version.

I am generally not a light shell guy so this one isn't on my keeper list. Nice though, no doubt.

**mn_teleswede** · 01-09-2021, 07:58 AM

Just stopping in to say how much I love their Turpin fleece. I have a hoody and bought my wife the pull over for Christmas. Fleece is super soft/ comfy and seems to be holding up well in 12 no since I have owned.
Disclaimer: Unless on sale, or you have a discount code; their stuff all falls under “stupid price” IMHO.

**ticketchecker** · 01-09-2021, 11:11 AM

I’ve got a new pair of MD Raymer pants I’m going to return if anyone wants a pair at wholesale. Probably ship them back next week

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**MiddleOfNight** · 01-10-2021, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Djongo Unchained

Actually it was for Middle, looking for his unicorn.

I'll look into it, thanks!
Hard to tell, but it is a L yeah?

The new objective was HUGE on me, so maybe the earlier cuts are better.

**Djongo Unchained** · 01-10-2021, 02:39 PM

It is a Large.
I'm kinda late to the conversation, not sure what you're searching for, just threw that out there as that shell could be doing more work for someone who is searching for it. holla if it appeals to you or for pics.

**adrian.bee** · 10-04-2023, 09:13 AM

Can anyone speak to this "PeakProof" fabric? Liking the new freeride stuff but never had hands on this material https://www.stio.com/products/mens-f...44072421589166

**plugboots** · 10-04-2023, 09:30 AM

Curious as well. Used to be Japanese Dermizax.

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**zlatham** · 10-04-2023, 12:03 PM

Same, very curious.

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**east or bust** · 10-04-2023, 01:16 PM

If I have time I’ll run into the store today or tomorrow and check it out

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**Core Shot** · 10-04-2023, 02:02 PM

I tried the googs. Nothing but stio.

I’m thinking it’s private label tm stio that’s just Chinese whatever.

But. Being a stio fanboy. I expect that it works and they warranty it.

PS. As far as “hand”. That’s a clothing term of art. I really like the hand of stio. So far. Had a goretex pro (arcteryx) and it was awful. The environ line is my favoritist ski gear evar.