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Thread: Fritschi Tecton
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02-09-2017, 08:29 AM #76
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02-09-2017, 12:15 PM #77
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02-09-2017, 01:17 PM #78
The visible heel cup axle appears to be located within another element that moves roughly vertically about 7mm. The VPP analogy is a good one.
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02-09-2017, 01:54 PM #79
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02-09-2017, 02:15 PM #80
Thanks! It was an ask twice (measure twice) drill once sort of thing, as I'm sure you understand ;-) That gives me enough confidence to make some new holes in my GPOs.
Yeah, I don't know what Dynafit is thinking. Obviously, some design changes mandate a mounting pattern change, but I get the impression that many of Dynafit's drilling pattern changes result from not caring. The sad thing (for them) is that this isn't in their best interest, and certainly not in the consumer's interest.
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02-09-2017, 02:33 PM #81
Last edited by LightRanger; 09-28-2017 at 06:12 PM.
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02-10-2017, 08:27 PM #82
Ignore the music. Ouch. More about the heel from this marketing video
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTc...APiiC3bT8Lv8aw
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02-11-2017, 07:02 AM #83
Interesting that they've chosen to put quasi tech fittings made out of plastic in the heel piece. I wonder what it does to release characteristics and also it's actual effect? Feels like marketing to me but maybe it really does something?
What says the collective? (apologies if it has been discussed in previous pages)
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02-11-2017, 05:34 PM #84Registered User
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02-11-2017, 09:07 PM #85
From what I can see, they saved a bit of weight by narrowing the width of the heel cup and restored any lost lateral control with those fittings. Makes sense to me - to make use of a heel fitting that's on all tech boots.
As far as toe release, I can't see this having any effect, any more than the Vipecs' heel pins have on their toe release. Toe release pivots about the heel.
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02-13-2017, 04:44 PM #86Registered User
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I'll just leave this here...
https://youtu.be/0RlokpbOSOo
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02-28-2017, 08:40 AM #87Registered User
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Got to play with a Tecton sample and chat with the sales rep yesterday. Was surprised how insubstantial (size, weight and substance) the heel piece seemed, especially in direct comparison to the Kingpin. My gut feel is that I'd break something within weeks. The rep mentioned that he isn't pushing sales or allowing his demos to be skied until issues are resolved regarding setting the heel piece to boot gap (the specified gap seems to allow too much play) and transitioning the heel piece to walk mode (which seems to require removing the boot, contrary to the manufacturer's claims). Difficult to make the case why anyone would chose the Tecton over the new Evo.
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03-02-2017, 12:13 PM #88Registered User
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So not ready for primetime then??
If they were not available for ski testing at recent shows i cant imagine how they'll be at retail in the fall.
My naive assumption is that lateral toe and vertical heel release is marginally better than lateral heel of kingpin but i could be way wrong here.
But I'm also imagining many more issues than benefits from the lateral toe release while in walk mode that they depict in the video - (think just about any steep icy sidehill where you might use ski crampons).
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03-02-2017, 12:56 PM #89
This.
When Fritschi did their rush launch of the Vipec it was a disaster & the 2nd gen wasn't any better. Now starting to see busted Blacks this side of the pond which were supposed to have been fully sorted.
It took Dynafit & Marker a few tweaks to get the Beasts/Rad 2's/Kingpins right & they'd had many proper working/skiing pre-production prototypes in use at least a full season earlier.
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03-02-2017, 01:00 PM #90Registered User
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as^^ opposed to the Rad 1 which Dynafit tested on the consumer ?
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03-02-2017, 01:42 PM #91Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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03-02-2017, 01:54 PM #92
Yeah, I'd say the Radical debacle was significantly worse (both in what the issues were and how widespread they were) than anything that's happened with Fritschi or Marker. The initial Vipec toe pin screws were bad, but fix wasn't a problem once the problem was known.
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03-02-2017, 03:41 PM #93
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03-02-2017, 07:32 PM #94Registered User
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not just the radical what about the tri-step toe piece that Dynafit never manned up on?
Between Tr-step & rad 1 they had some stuff that didnt not suck so we trusted themLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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03-02-2017, 07:39 PM #95Registered User
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03-02-2017, 08:05 PM #96Registered User
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naw we are bashing tech binding makers who rush product to market without testing, marker, fritschi, dynafit ... everyone here so try to follow along
havent you got a family of skiers you should be assaulting or something?Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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03-02-2017, 10:36 PM #97
Like Brian I've drunk the Vipec koolaid. There;'s issues for sure which I've raised in reviews. I've levered the heel risers off when on icy skintracks because the plastic can flex and twist off their perch mount. I've broken the black stepin guides at the toe piece but that's just cosmetic. But I've stomped some pretty aggro skintracks and not broken anything or levered out of the toe piece when locked in either by the toe piece laterally releasing or otherwise.
Given that the Tecton heelpiece is new that's where I expect a review to focus. Fritschi fucked up the initial release and it took the black toepiece from last year for improvement for sure but after some 50+ days IMO the MAJOR issues with the toepieces are resolved
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05-27-2017, 01:34 PM #98
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05-27-2017, 06:37 PM #99
This is interesting (from Lou's post) ...
Heel plate appears to be the same as that of the Vipec, but powers-that-be told me not to use the Vipec plate but to remove it and install the plate that came with Tecton. The Tecton plate I used had a different screw pattern than Vipec (same width but longer), so I drilled a new set of heel holes. I have not gotten clear on whether I have a demo plate and the regular Tecton plate uses same screw pattern as Vipec, or if you’ll always need new holes. When I clarify this I’ll update here and our Tecton FAQ.)
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05-27-2017, 09:08 PM #100
Looks like the heel fitting keys allow for a shallow heel cup, saving weight. The cup still has some lip curvature though, so the keys aren't doing all the work fixing the hell laterally.
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