I just put a set of Toyo Open Country ATs on my old Jeep and I feel like I just put on some really good shoes. The Jeep drives way better than w the Goodrich’s I had previously and I liked just fine. These are a noticeable upgrade imo
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Need new tires on the tundra this year. BFG ko2 was top of list but maybe I should consider he wildpeak at3? Needs to be e-rated to haul the camper.
I’m running 275/70r18 Nokians in winter with a 12 offset wheel. I have a deal on methods but the wheel offset is either 0 or 35! for the 17”. Any recommendations for a comparable tire size? I’d prefer if it weren’t totally stanced out like a bro dozer.
The reviews universally state that it has the best wet and snow traction of any year-round 3PMSF rated AT tire - yours included!
Seems like if your needs are more off road in the summer than having awesome wet and snow traction, the KO2s may have the edge in that regard. And Costco carries the KO2, awesome warranty, nitrogen fill, cheapest installed price. But the Discount Tire pricing on Falkens isn’t bad by any means.
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I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
Check out the size list on here. They have E rated sizes all the way down to 15” (what I will use on my trailer). At 17” it’s load index 121 which I think is way over the RAWR of any Tundra. Up to load index 129 with 18”!
https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at3w
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"Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.
I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
I haven’t read reviews. Have the reviews or peoples’ experience gone past winter #1?
I have the cooper at-w, which was a 3PMSF rated AT tire as my “summer tires” to now be replaced. I was impressed with their winter performance for their first two winters, but definitely not the third and fourth. Currently, I’m finishing my 4th winter with true winter tires, studded winterforce, and I remain impressed with their performance.
Great question. Some of the chatter on my RV towing forums is that the tread wear on those tires is really impressive (the 3 Ws Falken was going for was wet, winter, and wear) but not a lot of folks in those forums are regularly towing or driving unloaded in the snow.
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"Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.
I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
295/70/17 is a smidge wider and taller, albeit with a lot more sidewall.
I'm planning to go to that size on my summer tires from the 275/70/18 I currently run on my f150, but I haven't quite decided on tire and rim yet. 0 offset would provide better clearance and allow bigger tires if wanted to in the future, but will probably look dozerish, especially if I buy the tires I want emotionally rather than the ones that make sense rationally.
Thanks. I believe the “W” of the Cooper At-W stood for “winter.”
The tire that I’m looking at is available in both p-metric and lt versions with the deeper tread and higher max weight being the differences on paper. Are there any other functional differences? Does the higher load rating make the sidewalls more durable to rocks? I’ve torn one side wall on an all season in my van in the middle of no where, which sucked, and clipped a rock on the sidewalk in my land cruiser that resulted in a sidewalk bulge/delamination with the p-metric copper AT tires. My current thought is to get the LT version because of added tread depth with the compromise of a harsher ride, which we may not notice. Thoughts?
Looking through tire rack, the toyo open country a/t III also looks interesting….
So ko2, open country a/t III, and wild peak at3w…. Are reviewers finding huge functional differences/experiences?
No idea, I’ve never run an LT rated tire on a passenger SUV but your assumptions seem right to me. Also make note of the higher weight of the LT version. I’ve got to believe that you will take a measurable fuel economy hit going to the LT version, if that is at all a concern on par with durability in tough conditions. Inflation pressure may be different between the P vs LT as well, I would look at the manufacturer’s load inflation chart and maybe try GVWR divided by 4 as a starting point and adjust from there?
Those are the three that seem to have the most love and attention in forums! Cooper has also updated the Discoverer line from what I can see, it may have been improved.
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"Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.
I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
Oh yeah, Nokian has a new year round 3PMSF AT tire called the Outpost. Made in the US I think. Not sure on sizes and ratings - I think they are targeting SUV segment on that one.
https://www.adventure-journal.com/20...ture-rig-tire/
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"Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.
I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
FYI, eBay has $200 off $1000 tire purchase through tomorrow. The discount is $150 under $1000. Discount tires sells through eBay and last time I bought tires they had the same promotion going and I just took a screen shot of my cart showing the final price and my local DT had no problem matching the price.
I bought Toyo opencountry At3’s last fall. If I remember correctly they got better reviews for off-road, but not quite as good on snow, as the Falken. Since I run snow tires the off road performance was more important to me.
Just finishing up winter number 2 and have seen no degradation in traction. Between Utah driving snow and FS roads, a week in -20* Bozeman on ice covered roads and a Wyoming trip with similar weather and ice roads, I’ve been extremely happy with Wildpeaks.
They are loud doing 80 mph on Utah freeways but that’s part of the game with these burly all seasons.
I have 31k on mine as of now. Third winter. I don’t drive a ton in snow, but I have never had any issues here in OR or in Utah/Idaho where I spend a fair bit of time in the winters. Probably have another summer or driving on them and I’ll replace them before winter next year.
I decided to go for what I want rather than what actually makes sense for most of my driving, so we'll see how the Milestar Patagonia M/T 2 does in real world usage.
On the plus side, my attempt to park in and later get out of the snowbank last week probably would've worked had I had them on.
Winter #3 or maybe even #4 on my Falken Wildpeaks, 50k miles roughly at start of ski season. Not the same tack as first winter, but still sufficient. Noise is up. Will replace before next winter though. Happy enough to replace with same
Gotdamn, you went all out mud tire. I’d love a set of those for spring time FS road access. I need a tire quiver I guess?
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Don't forget the MT Baja Boss AT. Hybrid mud/AT with 3PMSF rating, supposedly excellent in snow. Only downside is E load rating in non-floatation sizes so heavy and harsh unless you need E-rated for towing. Sounds like durability is top notch though.
I'll probably go Wildpeak AT3 for my F150 this summer (C-rated in 285/70/17).
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General Grabber ATX. I did a ton of research when it came time to replace the same Coopers you've been running and couldn't find any really negative reviews.
I mounted them on a 3rd gen 4runner which serves as my family's camping / utility vehicle. It doesn't get driven much in the winter since we have an awd wagon with snows, but when it does the traction is confidence inspiring. In fact, I've pulled a few people out of snowbanks this winter in my North Lake Tahoe neighborhood with nary a slip.
Just gonna say that the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac tires that came on my Tundra are junk for driving in the snow.
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