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    How much to purchase a berth on the last colony space ship leaving a dead planet?

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    the Overlords will be long gone by the time
    the last ship leaves ....
    "we all do dumb shit when we're fucked up"
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    Anybody read “Parables of the Sower?” I could not finish it. Over a year later and it still sometimes keeps me up late.

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    Never heard of c40

    But it’s interesting. And the end of most skiing

    https://expose-news.com/wp-content/u...1-5C-World.pdf

    PS. No idea or opinion of the web host. It’s just what popped up after searching.

    by the year 2030 of “0 kg [of] meat consumption,” “0 kg [of] dairy consumption,” “3 new clothing items per person per year,” “0 private vehicles” owned, and “1 short-haul return flight (less than 1500 km) every 3 years per person.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    One wonders what goes through the minds of the execs of these companies when they rape the planet. Surely at least some of them have children, grandchildren, maybe great grandchildren. How do you go about making the world unlivable for your descendants?
    I'm sure many of them view this as a zero-sum game, where there are going to be obvious winners and losers, and their objective is to hoard enough wealth at the expense of other so that their descendants are the winners.

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    Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield3d View Post
    I'm sure many of them view this as a zero-sum game, where there are going to be obvious winners and losers, and their objective is to hoard enough wealth at the expense of other so that their descendants are the winners.
    They fail to recognize that wealth won’t mean shit to their descendants on the type of planet that we’re headed towards at this rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    One wonders what goes through the minds of the execs of these companies when they rape the planet. Surely at least some of them have children, grandchildren, maybe great grandchildren. How do you go about making the world unlivable for your descendants? What rationalizations could cover that?
    Probably the same one I use--what difference would it make if I stop doing it if everybody else keeps on.
    For some people there is simply never enough. Never enough money. Never enough power.

    Imagine owning yachts you never use, houses you never visit, planes you rarely fly. The consumption required to maintain these things is insane.

    There's a place in-between being part of the planet and raping the planet where the rest of us should find happiness, but the push for consumerism at the highest level will never allow people to settle into that place. How many TV's dies a family need? How many vehicles? How many ski's, bikes, etc...?

    It took me until my mid 40's to find peace in downsizing. It's a work in progress.

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    Wildfires ravaging Louisiana coast. Massive heat dome over the south and then a tropical storm/hurricane poised to strike the Tampa area late this week. We are fucked, well actually they are fucked.

    But this is normal
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post

    But this is the new normal
    FIFY

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    Will be interesting to see what happens when this hurricane hits record warm temperature water in the east GOM.


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    Article in the guardian this morning:
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ts-scarce-snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Wildfires ravaging Louisiana coast. Massive heat dome over the south and then a tropical storm/hurricane poised to strike the Tampa area late this week. We are fucked, well actually they are fucked.

    But this is normal

    Apparently, Arizonan Republican politicians are gaslighting people over the weather with such excellent quotes as "I don’t recall feeling that this July was particularly hotter " and "this weather is normal."

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...icans-00110325

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    Progressive POV for streamlining non-fossil fuel energy infrastructure in the US https://rooseveltinstitute.org/publi...itting-reform/
    Interview with one of the authors: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000626225350

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield3d View Post
    Apparently, Arizonan Republican politicians are gaslighting people over the weather with such excellent quotes as
    I don’t recall feeling that this July was particularly hotter " and "this weather is normal."
    Well at least they are taking "action".
    “We pray, Father, for solutions to end suffering and for our temperatures to trend downwards to provide relief for so many in harm’s way,” the legislative chaplain said as sweaty heads bowed in the state Senate.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Well at least they are taking "action".
    Yeah... when people say they're praying for a solution, I don't expect them to be literally only praying for a solution.

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    Last edited by Summer; 07-02-2024 at 12:14 AM.

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    Crikey!

    3C is nuts

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    August of 23 was .69 degrees C above the 1991-2020 average. The hottest August by far and one of the hottest months ever. The linear average trend is .14 C per decade globally and .19 C per decade over land. At current rates we will be 1.5C hotter over land by 2100. But warming is unlikely to be linear and will probably be exponentially increasing.


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    They tried to ban nonlinear/exponential math for sea level forecasts here in Kakalki a few years go. Probably getting that passed in Florida as we speak though..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Bless your heart Cleveland.

    Skip to 2:40 for peak stupidity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    August of 23 was .69 degrees C above the 1991-2020 average. The hottest August by far and one of the hottest months ever. The linear average trend is .14 C per decade globally and .19 C per decade over land. At current rates we will be 1.5C hotter over land by 2100. But warming is unlikely to be linear and will probably be exponentially increasing.
    According to Carbon Brief:
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis...lobal-warming/

    Our analysis shows that:

    • The world will likely exceed 1.5C between 2026 and 2042 in scenarios where emissions are not rapidly reduced, with a central estimate of between 2030 and 2032.
    • The 2C threshold will likely be exceeded between 2034 and 2052 in the highest emissions scenario, with a median year of 2043.
    • In a scenario of modest mitigation – where emissions remain close to current levels – the 2C threshold would be exceeded between 2038 and 2072, with a median of 2052.
    Permanently surpassing 1.5C between 2030 and 2032 -- that isn't very far away. . .

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    https://www.opb.org/article/2023/09/...ary-of-energy/

    I hope all future TGR ski bum road trips utilize EVs only and no climate destroying combustion engines. Would definitely make some of the trip reports entertaining to see people heading to really remote places in the freezing cold driving through feet of snow in EVs.

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    Cleveland’s got nothing on Cincinnati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYou WannaDance View Post
    https://www.opb.org/article/2023/09/...ary-of-energy/

    I hope all future TGR ski bum road trips utilize EVs only and no climate destroying combustion engines. Would definitely make some of the trip reports entertaining to see people heading to really remote places in the freezing cold driving through feet of snow in EVs.
    Electric Heli Skiing FTW?? Imagine a follow me drone big enough to carry the pilot back up to the top of the mountain lapping all day..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMachine View Post
    For some people there is simply never enough. Never enough money. Never enough power.

    Imagine owning yachts you never use, houses you never visit, planes you rarely fly. The consumption required to maintain these things is insane.

    There's a place in-between being part of the planet and raping the planet where the rest of us should find happiness, but the push for consumerism at the highest level will never allow people to settle into that place. How many TV's dies a family need? How many vehicles? How many ski's, bikes, etc...?

    It took me until my mid 40's to find peace in downsizing. It's a work in progress.
    After seeing some of the famous peoples' (very empty) homes in person up in the Yellowstone Club, it's REALLY made it tough for me to take them seriously when I hear them publicly profess their concern for the environment. Looking at YOU, Oprah!!!

    I've seen their homes, with snowless driveways and monster mountaintop homes heated by burning through thousands of gallons of propane each month, these gigantic, gorgeous homes that sit mostly empty, and how they fly in on their private jets, then shuttled from the airstrip to their homes in giant SUVs. And THEN watch as they run their mouths at awards ceremonies about how us peons need to do better. Even if their messages are correct, it's still grating coming from these particular folks. They're earth-rapists telling us WE'RE the ones destroying the planet.

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