"All weather" tires in place of winter tires

[Shorty_J]

I can keep a car on the road in the snow pretty well regardless of tire choice.

Ahhhh... Confirmation bias.

I had that when I bought an AWD Impreza and right after I nearly put it in the ditch (because I didn't know about winter tires), I bought winter tires.

Have you actually tried them? They are literally as good as everyone who has actually used them is telling you.

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[Shorty_J]

Well I can too, but it’s better with winter tires. That’s not what this is about though, right?


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This.

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[XXX-er]

Well a trip to the ditch is gona cost money and you could be hurt you can die from this shit eh

I was kind of amped with adrenelin the 1st time i watched someone go in i actualy pulled the parking brake out on my 4-runer and broke the cable

so i didnt check tires cuz I'm amped, you never know if you are gona find a body with the steering colomn thru the chest, so that 1st rollover was down a long steep bank and some one did get hurt, cops/ rescue/ ambulance the whole yada

by # 3 rollover i was used to the situ, the girl wasnt hurt so I said yeah the cops aren't gona come if you aren't hurt so you got a pnone ya just call a wrecker

[Name Redacted]

This.

You two should get a cheap hotel room in Yakima and jerk each other off to Nokian commercials.

[Shorty_J]

You two should get a cheap hotel room in Yakima and jerk each other off to Nokian commercials.

Strong post.

I take back everything I said ... Sorry.

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[MagnificentUnicorn]

You two should get a cheap hotel room in Yakima and jerk each other off to Nokian commercials.

Now the homophobic “humor” starts, you’ll show us..,


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[Mustonen]

My Audi Allroad runs Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 from April to Dec. And dedicated winters (different thread) the rest of the time.
In Colorado high country we often get snow in May and June so it’s nice to know the Contis can handle the bad weather.
I find the performance and tire noise is great all year on the All Season, even in dry and hot.

Same car, same setup. I went home to a set of blizzaks the last time I bought a new set.

To the question of “all seasons”: those continentals are pretty terrible on snow/ice compared to an actual snow tire. We had a good snow storm week before last and I logged a couple hundred miles through slush, ice, and packed snow, and I def missed the snows. No problem getting there and I’m not a white knuckler, but it wasn’t any fun and snow driving SHOULD be fun.

To the shit slinging upthread: I am capable of keeping my car on the road even with shit tires, but margin of error goes down substantially. Kind of an odd place to run into that viewpoint…. The best tool for the job is usually the one designed for the job. Do you eschew fat skis too? I run into that sentiment locally all the time, though, and it amuses me. My little station wagon with snows will hoon circles around your rugged jeep in a snow storm, brah. Buy dedicated wheels and it’s a 1 beer job during the shoulder seasons when it’s too wet and shitty to go biking and not enough snow to ski. Get a chance to check out your brakes and other stuff and you should rotate your tires anyways. The cost is way less than a casual fender bender in town or an encounter with the ditch.

To the topic of “all weather” I have nothing to add. Sounds like a midfat. (Edit: just read that we’re putting the DWS into the all weather category. Whatever, I guess… If you occasionally see snow then maybe they’re a good option. If you routinely drive on/through snow for months at a time, like I do, I wouldn’t think twice about getting some dedicated snows if something like the DWS06 was the other option. Sounds like OP use case is somewhere in between. He probably won’t die, but his chances of dying are slightly higher. He’ll make his own judgment. My little ride is positively sporty after getting a stage 1 chip, and I frequently see 100+ when passing or whatever, and my chances of dying on dry roads with the contis is probably a good bit less than if I tried that with the snows, which just reinforces the “tool for the job” argument.)

[Mustonen]

Oh, and I also find it amusing when we talk about AWD being a part of the equation. AWD doesn’t help you steer or brake to avoid death or the ditch. I feel better with my teenage daughter NOT having AWD so she has a better appreciation for how fucking icy it is and doesn’t get too confident.

[whyturn]

Gonna try Falken wildpeak next summer going into fall on the forester.


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[The Tortoise]

No way are DWS in the all-weather category. They are an all season with summer cold weather marketing thrown in.

[SumJongGuy]

The cognitive dissonance in these tire threads is hilarious. Yer all gunna die unless you do it my way... vs the sky isn't falling chicken little..

[gaijin]

How anyone on TGR can claim an “all weather” tire is fucking beyond me.

You guys have been kicking each other in the balls for 685 posts.

Wake up. You need two sets of tires. Just like you need two sets of piece of shit skis.


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[jmedslc]

Oh, and I also find it amusing when we talk about AWD being a part of the equation. AWD doesn’t help you steer or brake to avoid death or the ditch. I feel better with my teenage daughter NOT having AWD so she has a better appreciation for how fucking icy it is and doesn’t get too confident.

Umm you have no clue what you’re talking about. To say that I can’t use my AWD + clutch + throttle to steer the car is just plain ignorant. Psssh

[Mustonen]

Umm you have no clue what you’re talking about. To say that I can’t use my AWD + clutch + throttle to steer the car is just plain ignorant. Psssh

Oh shut the fuck up.

I know you can influence steering with AWD, and I have all kindsa fun giving it a pop around corners when I’m having a fun time, but that’s not what any of you fuckers are doing when you’re trying to miss Grandma Jones’s Towncar when it pulls out in front of you in a snowstorm.

[AK47bp]

Anyone lease?

How do you handle the 2 sets of tire issues if you live somewhere snow tires are needed?

Serious question.

My wife puts maybe 10k miles a year on her lease and turns it in every 2-3 years for a new car.



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[Cocximus]

That's it. Driving an automatic in the winter is dangerous. Mandate manual cars.

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[summit]

This thread is hilarious.

[Mustonen]

As we tangent: I’ve been pretty impressed with my car’s electronics. Every once in a while I’ll leave “fun mode” on (stability control off) when just driving between point A and point B. Immediate and noticeable difference even just driving down the highway when it’s icy.

AK47BP: if it’s me I’m buying a set of snow tires and selling the leftover set if it can’t get used on the next lease. The extra few hundred bucks is worth it, IMO.

[anotherVTskibum]

That's it. Driving an automatic in the winter is dangerous. Mandate manual cars.

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You jest, but the first time my F-150 downshifted under load in the snow got fairly exciting. Granted, that was with 3PMSF rated AT tires, so there's that (and if you consider a price point AT tire "all-weather" because of the logo, I'd suggest your standards are dropping like last call is approaching and you really don't want to sleep in your car).

I have no idea how an "all-weather" from someone like Nokian compares, but a 3PMSF-rated Radar Renegade AT/5 is not suitable for winter use.

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[nickwm21]

So… we should just take the bus?


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[bodywhomper]

What would Cowboy Neal do?

[Shorty_J]

So… we should just take the bus?


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Does the bus have winter tires on it?

I joke... But it all seriousness when the roads get shitty around here it's always a bus that can't get up a hill that fucks all the traffic up.

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[Name Redacted]

Does the bus have winter tires on it?

I joke... But it all seriousness when the roads get shitty around here it's always a bus that can't get up a hill that fucks all the traffic up.

Auto Chains.

[adrenalated]

Have we decided who the best driver is on TGR yet or do we need to have a drive-off?

[teleee]

Have we decided who the best driver is on TGR yet or do we need to have a drive-off?

All I know is when it snows I’m either riding with mustonen or the unicorn. Save me having to buy 8 different sets of tires.


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