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  1. #151
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    Salomon Mtn tech "Pin" binding

    Cross posting here from Gear Swap, I'm looking for 100mm brakes for these bindings. If anyone has an unused set to sell, or trade for my 80mms let me know. Thanks.
    Last edited by birdboatboy; 11-24-2018 at 10:57 PM.

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    Brake width question: are the brakes for the MTN Pin binding fitting similarly to the Shifts? i.e. for a 106mm waist ski am I better off with the 100 or 110 brake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow View Post
    Brake width question: are the brakes for the MTN Pin binding fitting similarly to the Shifts? i.e. for a 106mm waist ski am I better off with the 100 or 110 brake?
    Nope Rob. They're more conservative
    . Go with 110 for 106 waist or be prepared to bend

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Nope Rob. They're more conservative
    . Go with 110 for 106 waist or be prepared to bend
    Thanks Lee!

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    Salomon Mtn tech "Pin" binding

    anyone know how the brakes size on these? toying with the idea of using brakes for my Lotus 120s (122mm waist) for occasional inbounds use, but if they size large maybe thinking of bending 110s...? or am I overthinking this obvious decision lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    anyone know how the brakes size on these? toying with the idea of using brakes for my Lotus 120s (122mm waist) for occasional inbounds use, but if they size large maybe thinking of bending 110s...? or am I overthinking this obvious decision lol
    They will fit, i have 100 in my 112 skis

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    Quick Question.... Just picked up a pr of skis with a brand new set of the Atomic Backland bindings mounted up already for a slightly longer BSL. For my touring boots I need to crank the heel piece pretty much all the way forward minus only a mm or 2. Is it OK to have them all the way forward? Or should I remount the toes 1cm back to be i the mid zone of the heel piece? Boot center ended up 1/4" or so ahead of the line. Skis are Backland 107s. Thanks a Ton!

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    It's fine as long as they are setup correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravityDT View Post
    Quick Question.... Just picked up a pr of skis with a brand new set of the Atomic Backland bindings mounted up already for a slightly longer BSL. For my touring boots I need to crank the heel piece pretty much all the way forward minus only a mm or 2. Is it OK to have them all the way forward? Or should I remount the toes 1cm back to be i the mid zone of the heel piece? Boot center ended up 1/4" or so ahead of the line. Skis are Backland 107s. Thanks a Ton!
    Fine, aside from the fact that your boot center is now a bit forward of the original mount position. Which may or may matter or even be noticeable.

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    Cool - that's what I was thinking. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Nope Rob. They're more conservative
    . Go with 110 for 106 waist or be prepared to bend
    100 mm brake fits a 102 waist I assume?


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    I'm sorry to say that my girlfriend severed her achilles skiing Salomon MTN bindings yesterday. She was in a situation where she skied into a creek bank in flat light without seeing said creek bank. Both skis torpedoed into the snow and she needed a vertical release. Unfortunately, the bindings didn't release until her achilles completely tore. Her other foot has a possible broken bone (waiting on radiology to confirm/deny).

    Surgery is getting scheduled in the next two days. Don't ski these bindings without knowing what you are getting into. There is some additional risk that is very worthy of consideration. Had her binding heal had a DIN certificatation and/or a better vertical release she likely would have walked away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    I'm sorry to say that my girlfriend severed her achilles skiing Salomon MTN bindings yesterday. She was in a situation where she skied into a creek bank in flat light without seeing said creek bank. Both skis torpedoed into the snow and she needed a vertical release. Unfortunately, the bindings didn't release until her achilles completely tore. Her other foot has a possible broken bone (waiting on radiology to confirm/deny).

    Surgery is getting scheduled in the next two days. Don't ski these bindings without knowing what you are getting into. There is some additional risk that is very worthy of consideration. Had her binding heal had a DIN certificatation and/or a better vertical release she likely would have walked away.
    All ski bindings are designed to prevent bones breaking, not ligaments or tendons.
    It was just bad luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    Had her binding heal had a DIN certificatation and/or a better vertical release she likely would have walked away.
    This sort of generalization isn't always accurate. I blew my achilles in a Duke, which is fully ISO 13992 certified.
    Which spring was she using? What does she test out for on a DIN chart?

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    Bummer for your GF Kevo. I took the MTN tech off my wife's skis ASAP after reading this evaluation of approximate release values from wild snow.

    Interestingly, the horizontal toe release with no heel spring installed is 6-7. That said, I bet a lot of men should be skiing the "w" spring. I normally set my din to 10, but I've been skiing the MTN with the "m" spring without issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    This sort of generalization isn't always accurate. I blew my achilles in a Duke, which is fully ISO 13992 certified.
    Which spring was she using? What does she test out for on a DIN chart?
    And I blew my achilles in a jester.

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    That is a shitty injury and I hope she recovers as quick as possible.

    I've been using these bindings for 2x seasons on all my touring rigs. I have had a full vertical release, when needed, with the expert springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skisurfmirth View Post
    That is a shitty injury and I hope she recovers as quick as possible.
    Agreed, probably my worst orthopedic injury ever. Be patient; I was eager to get "back" and doing 40+ miles on the bike in the walking cast - broke the skin, got a staph infection, had to do the surgery over and flush all the parts with antibiotic . . . set me back 4 months.

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    Jeez. This is a pleasant thread [emoji2357]

    Either way those injuries suck, sorry to hear about your GF. I feel like on pin bindings you’re always taking a chance somewhere and hoping it doesn’t bite you in the ass.

    Years ago, I locked out toes and got away with what could have been a few pretty bad outcome situations that could have really f’ed a knee.

    I had a (what sounds like) a similar situation at the end of a pretty long run where I was pretty casually riding out the end of a creek drainage and didn’t see a gap and shorted it. Purely by luck I didn’t snap my Achilles since I had tip dive and no heel ejection. Lots of luck and maybe being more flexible at the time.

    Sorry to hear and vibes with soonest of recovery.


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    Salomon Mtn tech "Pin" binding

    Still 100% on my informal tib/fib and tibial plateau patients skiing low cuff touring boots and pins in the resort. No matter what the guy at REI says it’s not a quiver of one.


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    I blew an ACL one year ago in a baron with alpine boots so a full DIN setup at only 7, sometimes you are unlucky

    my buddy blew an achilles at pretty much the same time and he is skiing already while i still have 5months of rehab left, its going well but still the Achilles is way easier to repair than a knee

    i been whining about the safety aspects of minimalist bindings for years and this is the first time I have ever seen it discussed
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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    Still 100% on my informal tib/fib and tibial plateau patients skiing low cuff touring boots and pins in the resort. No matter what the guy at REI says it’s not a quiver of one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    Still 100% on my informal tib/fib and tibial plateau patients skiing low cuff touring boots and pins in the resort. No matter what the guy at REI says it’s not a quiver of one.


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    I did my tibial plateau in Mach1s and STH2s...

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    Sorry to hear that @Kevo.

    Sure folks have gotten hurt on alpine binders. Lots of folks here also set their binders (shall we say) aggressively. Hardly even anecdotal data.

    U-pin rears ... 6-8-10-12 ... pick one. What about when 7 is your sweet spot? I'm with @xxx-er on this.

    Luck surely comes into play, but I'm all for stacking the odds in my favor.

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    That's a bad crash mode too, with any release mechanism. All the force is going in an unhelpful direction initially. Boot fit and stiffness contribute to how much force ends up vertical (relative to ski).

    Super bummed to hear about her injury, hoping for the best on surgery and recovery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    ...Don't ski these bindings without knowing what you are getting into. There is some additional risk that is very worthy of consideration...
    Really it's "don't ski without knowing what you are getting into." Shit happens. Stay safe everybody!

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