Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[mcski]

Just tried quoting your test.
No workie.

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[Roxtar]

What are you guys doing different to make this work?

[beaterdit]

What are you guys doing different to make this work?

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[Andeh]

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[jdadour]

WTF is wrong with the TGR forum site? Does anyone know who the moderator is so we can contact to fix the issue or update the software or something? Seems like there have been issues for several months now. This is a fucking joke.

[mcski]

Fuck off

[g_man80]

Fixing work done by others! My friend bought a used bike and the seller re-installed the original new drivetrain and wheels rotors tires. It was not shifting correctly on the first ride, so I took a look at it tonight. It was a mess in the low gears and would jump into the spokes. I started with the limit screws which were screwed up enough it would only go through 11 gears..

Then I noticed the right crank arm was loose and wobbly. It was finger tight with about three turns of engagement! Take it apart and find two DUB spacers stacked together on the drive side which would not allow the crank arm to be fully tightened. Manual for this BB and crank calls for a 3mm on non-DS and 5mm on the DS. Seller had an extra 3mm on the DS. Only one correct DUB spindle spacer should be used on each side since it clicks into the BB. You should not stack them.

Back to the shifting and it is still messed up. Turns out it is a bent derailleur hanger. All good now.

Then to the front brake which is rubbing. Seller said the new rotor must have gotten bent in storage. Turns out the 20mm brake adaptor is backwards and the conical washers are in the wrong order and inside out! Pads were only making half contact and not flush with the rotor.

[evdog]

Why are you riding off trail???



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[ironhippy]

Why are you riding off trail???

Maybe the trail was wet and sloppy? That's the only reason I can think of.

[evdog]

We've had no rain in two months now. And if we had, the grass would grow back in quick and this would become unnoticeable in a week or two. When its dry like this, this doofus's path will be visible until the next time it rains - next winter.

[XXX-er]

I would think all that grass would just slow down the strava times, localy the main builder will put shit on the trail to stop braiding and some wanker will move it back, builder will put it back on the trail, strava dude will pull it WAY off into the woods

[jackstraw]

Maybe the trail was wet and sloppy? That's the only reason I can think of.

A - then you shouldn't be riding.

B - ride thru the water/mud so it doesn't expand the shitshow beyond the isolated location

[rideit]

I’m currently in a three year battle with some tool on the Hagen Trail. Each time I drag more and more shit, they remove it. So now I am looking at more creative ways.
One year over in the Big Holes, there was a similar issue. Someone cut down a live Doug Fir, left the trunk as long as possible, and ‘planted’ it in the hole that had been dug. dug.
It seriously just looked so natural, people quit trying to cut the turn. Someone might need to go and do this, and possibly put in a carsonite post or something with a post hole tool.

[ironhippy]

A - then you shouldn't be riding.B - ride thru the water/mud so it doesn't expand the shitshow beyond the isolated location

Understand and agree, just offering reasons as to why it could happen.

[evdog]

A - then you shouldn't be riding.B - ride thru the water/mud so it doesn't expand the shitshow beyond the isolated location

Thats a whole other battle we have after a bunch of storms come through. The "we didnt do any damage" crowd comes out in force on the first sunny day and instead of riding through the middle of mud/wet sections they try to go around them only to find going wider just as muddy. So then the next guy goes even wider, and riders after keep going wider and wider with same result. Ive posted pics of the resulting mess earlier in this thread or the dig thread.

[jackstraw]

Thats a whole other battle we have after a bunch of storms come through. The "we didnt do any damage" crowd comes out in force on the first sunny day and instead of riding through the middle of mud/wet sections they try to go around them only to find going wider just as muddy. So then the next guy goes even wider, and riders after keep going wider and wider with same result. Ive posted pics of the resulting mess earlier in this thread or the dig thread.

It's an education thing.

We have the kooks coming in from over the hill looking to rent from the Specialsauce experience center and thankfully they tell them to kindly f-off because it's too wet. Then their panties get in bunch because of it. That's just ignorance.

So many think trails just magically appear and are magically maintained as well.

[toast2266]

It's also just a location thing. There are plenty of places where riding in the wet is a non-issue. There are plenty of places where the trails ride considerably better when they're wet.

It's hard to get messaging and education on the issue to stick when it's location dependent.

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[jackstraw]

It's also just a location thing. There are plenty of places where riding in the wet is a non-issue. There are plenty of places where the trails ride considerably better when they're wet.

It's hard to get messaging and education on the issue to stick when it's location dependent.

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Good point. We have one local small area that is sand based and great when wet, but virtually nobody knows about it and it does connect to where you should not be riding when wet.

And 80-90% of our trails back east can handle being ridden when wet, but 80-90% of the riders can't handle riding wet rock [emoji23]

[mcski]

It's also just a location thing. There are plenty of places where riding in the wet is a non-issue. There are plenty of places where the trails ride considerably better when they're wet.
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Back in the day, we’d ride a single track loop in Marin rain or shine without a second thought. There would be some ruts but they wouldn’t last long into riding season. Since covid crazyness overran it , it gets closed down by the caretaker org when a dog pees near it now. I do think geography has a lot to do with whether it’s ok or not to ride a trail wet. There just weren’t nearly as many riders in the past to fuck it up…or complain about ruts

[ironhippy]

There's also a difference in wetness in the season. A rainy day (or even week) in August will cause slippery, wet roots here. A wet day in early May or late November will cause areas to be unrideable and will leave ruts (as well as slippery roots).We had a trail system that was hand built on mostly rock. It was always rideable. The local cycling club has since reworked and added a number of new machine built trails, these are dirt based and need to be closed for the freeze thaw in the fall and won't open until everything else is dry in the spring.

[muted reborn]

It&#39;s also just a location thing. There are plenty of places where riding in the wet is a non-issue. There are plenty of places where the trails ride considerably better when they&#39;re wet. It&#39;s hard to get messaging and education on the issue to stick when it&#39;s location dependent. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

I disagree, we are all mostly riding near our houses every day and should know whats best for our trails and when its too wet. The problem with ruts in Utah is not a mass influx of PNW riders visiting, its a local issue of not caring. As the great MTB writer Mike F. once told me - Mountain bikers are assholes. Thats the main problem.

The other issue is lack of etiquette passed down from old fucks to the new fucks. I cant eloquently explain it but it used to be some friend would take you under his wing and explain everything you need to know. That still exists for sure but Id guess these days many - not all of course - newbs learn the sport thru YouTube and TikTok now.

[rideit]

Locally, a metric crapton learn via NICA, which is all about coaching how to act on the trail as it is how to ride on the trail.

[evdog]

I disagree, we are all mostly riding near our houses every day and should know whats best for our trails and when its too wet. The problem with ruts in Utah is not a mass influx of PNW riders visiting, its a local issue of not caring. As the great MTB writer Mike F. once told me - Mountain bikers are assholes. Thats the main problem.

This.


The pic I posted above (and the ones below) are from the same local riding area. Riders know what the dirt is like and that there are a few trails to avoid when wet. A lot of them just dont give a shit. When they do come to a muddy spot theyll go wide thinking they can keep their bikes clean that way. Instead it turns out to be just as bad or worse. What is mind boggling is that more and more riders come through and do the same thing, with the same result. Now youve got a mess thats 12-15ft wide like in the pic below. If these morons would just stay on the trail it will eventually dry up and we wouldn&#39;t be left with a huge eye sore. Every single wet area has the same thing happen.



Unfortunately we have the same problem anywhere rocks poke out of the tread. Pic below was 12-18 inch wide singletrack to begin with. Riders keep migrating into the grass to avoid the itty bitty rocks that poke out of the tread. Now this trail is a road. Congrats, assholes.

[ironhippy]

I saw that on an ATV/old logging road near my house. What started as a seasonal puddle you could avoid turned into a road wide mud bog because the ATVs refused to slow down. The ATVs slow down now because they have to, fortunately I moved and no longer need to ride the trail. It'd be interesting to see what it's like now 10 years later.

[toast2266]

Apparently handlebars on kid's bikes come in two diameters; normal adult size (22.2mm), and a smaller diameter that's 19mm, which makes sense since kids have small hands. Except grips for the smaller size are basically non-existent, and unsurprisingly my kids destroy grips. Any online search for 19mm grips just yields tons of shitty Amazon links to grips that are not actually 19mm.

Funn appears to be the only company making actual 19mm grips, but I think the ones they make are too long to fit on my kid's bar. We'll see.

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