Binding questions - Look Pivot 18 vs. Marker Jester Pro 2017

[KBP]

I need a new pair of bindings for Rossignol Super 7 RD skis. Does anyone know the stand height (stack height) of the Look Pivot 18 binding? Please compare the Marker Jester Pro 18 skiing characteristics versus the Look Pivot 18 . Please - no stories of Marker binding per-releases. Finally, a general question about DIN settings: Are there issues with a binding set-up using the very low-end setting of of a binding's range? Thanks in advance for any information.

[ScrewYou]

Neither of those bindings are burly enough for your new Rossi's..





**Remember to follow the DIN chart

[old goat]

Definitly the Jester--it says PRO doesn't it?

[Iluvmoguls]

P18 ftw. The best in elasticity. All metal. It will last longer than the jester. It has less room for adjusting to other bsls tho. Dont get your thumb caught in it.

[undertow2]

Definitly the Jester--it says PRO doesn't it?

This made me laugh...!

[lordf]

The new jester pro says pro and it's even red, you cannot loose...

[gregL]

I believe the stand height for the Pivot 18 is 20mm, and it doesn't change when adjusted for boot sole thickness like Royal Family Markers. The Marker Jester Pro is a solid binding, lots of better skiers than me rocking them successfully - just beware of the need to get all the snow off the heel of the boot and the "false" step in scenario (clicks down but isn't actually in).

Personally I wouldn't buy an 8-18 binding unless I skied on at least a 9, you'll have plenty of beef with the 14 or 16 versions of either binding if you currently ski at an "8" DIN and save some money.

[nickwm21]

Are there issues with a binding set-up using the very low-end setting of of a binding's range?

Technically NO - The binding is certified by ze Germans to release at that value.
Usability YES - If you ever injure you knee and want to run that ski on a lower value, or you loose weight, or you get larger boots, etc... You could not lower that value.
Economically YES - Why would you spend like $100 more on something you don't need. Standard Jesters, Pivot 14s, and STH2 13s... are great bindings, cheaper, and lighter. If you needed an all metal binding you would already know and you would not be asking this question.
Psychologically NO - If skiing a high din binding makes you feel happy, enjoy your happiness.

[Flexon Phil]

The Look will double the warranty on the ski.

[gregL]

Technically NO - The binding is certified by ze Germans to release at that value.

Even if the samples supplied to TÜV SÜD tested consistently at a DIN 8, there is an allowable "window" of torque (usually equivalent to +1 or -1 DIN). Also, bindings sometimes test high, meaning the tech will tell you to get a different binding (if you mount them yourself you probably won't even be aware of this, or you'll simple choose whether or not to roll the dice).

[TAFKALVS]

I only know a couple people who really need a high din metal binding. Most of us will never ski hard enough to break a modern PX/FKS/PEAK/STH binding. As long as you don't buy something aimed toward beginner or intermediate skiers, you'll be fine.

If you're running your din at 8, you already answered your own question. Get a 13/14/15 din binding.

[Cocximus]

Ptex or wood base?

[tenB]

I've never heard a marker pre-release story when the skier was below the minimum din. Get those

[Percy Rideout]

you ski an 18 din clamp and don't have any preference towards brands used?

Go for the look. Liked my marker stuff, but not that much.

[ScrewYou]

I like markers step in feel. The heavy duty clunk is so confidence inspiring, it feels like it has the most pressure on the boot in the industry, hands down. but thats about where it ends for me with Marker bindings.

Ill take a Pivot 18 any day, even on a powder ski. Ive never had a problem with snow caught in the heel that takes more than a few seconds to clear out..