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    LOLWUT: Guys in AK Training Wolverines for Avalanche Recovery

    No shit. They're going to try at least...
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    Some Guys in Alaska Want to Train Wolverines to Rescue Avalanche Survivors

    By Sarah Berman

    There are many things I imagine wolverines would be pretty good at if given the opportunity: clawing through a steel fence, fighting crime, or maybe convincing Paul Ryan to seek the Republican nomination, as one pundit recently suggested. But I hadn't considered they might also be useful in a mountain search-and-rescue situation, because, like most people, I assumed wolverines are reclusive jerks that hate people.


    As the largest member of the weasel family, equipped with the jaw pressure of a grizzly bear and a territory-marking odor that earns them the nickname "skunk bear," they have a tendency to leap at any soft neck tissue they see. They're badass, no question, but low on most people's list of ideal lifesavers.


    If people are going to change minds on this, it's Mike Miller and Steve Kroschel, two dudes in Alaska who really, really love wolverines. The pair have teamed up on a one-of-a-kind pilot project that, fingers crossed, could be using the small but mighty beasts' super powers of scent to save lost skiers caught in avalanches by winter 2017.
    "If nobody ever tried, I don't see the harm in trying," says Miller, who is founder of Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center, a backcountry reserve that houses orphan animals. "We're doing it because we think it's possible. And if it works, it will be valuable."


    It turns out wolverines happen to be naturally adept at finding buried meat bags after an avalanche. Rather than going through all the work of killing small game like rabbit and geese, they see the sides of mountains as giant freezers full of bigger scores like moose and sheep. They can smell deep below the surface of the snow, scale any terrain, and dig like motherfuckers, too.


    Kroschel is a wildlife photographer that has already spent 36 years training wolverines in captivity. He says the secret to scaling back wolverines' blood-thirsty nature is to make sure they see humans when they're first born. "Then they become imprinted," he explains. "If you do that with a wolverine, it has an amazing effect. They trust you, they respond to you, they become loyal, and they basically demonstrate their real character."


    But even with careful training, Kroschel says the current plan won't allow a wolverine to actually dig for a rescue. He adds his own trained wolverines can still act pretty scrappy. "They bite me on the neck, and they drag me around," he tells me. "They know just how hard to bite without killing me."


    Instead, with the help of animal behaviorist Chandelle Cotter, they'll train the wolverines to track human scent, and let humans do the digging. "It does sound probably far-fetched, but the reality is this kind of training is actually being done all over the world in different projects," Cotter told the Alaska Dispatch News, citing rats trained to sniff out mines in Cambodia and Dutch eagles that take out drones.


    With extra endurance, strength, and an extremely sensitive sense of smell, Miller and Kroschel see a huge advantage over the retrievers or bloodhounds used in regular searches.


    Before the project gets off the ground, though, Miller and Kroschel have to achieve something pretty rare: get two wolverines to actually mate in captivity. Kroschel estimates only about 30 wolverines are living in captivity in all of North America. "It's rare, and even rarer to have success propagating them," he says.


    Miller recently acquired a female mate from Sweden, named Kayla, that's now over at Kroschel's wildlife reserve in Haines, Alaska, where his own trained males live. The whole project rides on the hope that the wolverines will hit it off and produce pups for next spring.


    Miller says the wild search-and-rescue idea grew out of his own experience living near a mountain range that has left many people buried for more than a month at a time. He tells me he'll never forget seeing one woman sit in her car by a hill every day for three months as a search party tried to locate her only son, an Iraq vet killed while backcountry snowboarding.



    Miller thinks a wolverine could have found the woman's son more easily, and with her blessing, he plans to name the first born rescue wolverine after her son. "It gave me a higher purpose to have a wolverine and to train it," Miller says. "It's not like I want it to ride a bike or a pogo stick."
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    This is the same wolverine! ; good breeding stock...
    http://time.com/3825140/wolverine-newark/

    Edit: Little more detail:http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0N62M220150415
    Scientists now have decisive molecular evidence that humans and chimpanzees once had a common momma and that this lineage had previously split from monkeys.

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    Skunkbears are so underrated...

    I had one follow me home from a moose kill. At least two trips almost up to treeline and back. I caught those eyes glowing in the headlamp, and figured he was keeping tabs on his moose meat. I finally left him a big hunk and told him he could drop by and share the rest, all winter, if he didn't eat my kids or my critters.
    I guess the wolves run him off the moose kill, because he showed up a week later and got another hunk of sausage meat. He showed up a couple more times that winter too. I'd see his tracks in the snow in the morning, and bury another hunk of frozen moose meat some place chill.

    This sort of thing may run afoul of the technical letter of the law in some readings, but that wolverine didn't pee all over my moose carcass when he had a good chance to, so I figured we had us a deal.

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    Can't wait for Black Diamond, Mystery Ranch, or Osprey to develop a pack for that.

    And the Blister Gear and Wildsnow reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highangle View Post
    Skunkbears are so underrated...

    I had one follow me home from a moose kill. At least two trips almost up to treeline and back. I caught those eyes glowing in the headlamp, and figured he was keeping tabs on his moose meat. I finally left him a big hunk and told him he could drop by and share the rest, all winter, if he didn't eat my kids or my critters.
    I guess the wolves run him off the moose kill, because he showed up a week later and got another hunk of sausage meat. He showed up a couple more times that winter too. I'd see his tracks in the snow in the morning, and bury another hunk of frozen moose meat some place chill.

    This sort of thing may run afoul of the technical letter of the law in some readings, but that wolverine didn't pee all over my moose carcass when he had a good chance to, so I figured we had us a deal.
    Crafty little guy. He wanted to know where it was all stashed. Always have a backup plan.
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    That's going to make for some interesting ski patrol t shirts.

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    Just....why. Wolves are extremely hard to train. I had a Czechoslovakian Vlcak who was trained in SAR. He was 5 generations removed from the carpathian wolf and if there was no food involved (or hint of food as a reward) he wouldn't do jack. He was stubborn as hell.

    I have another Czechoslovakian Vlcak who is 8 generations removed and much easier to train.

    I don't get why they insist on using wolves, but it's going to take more than one generation to develop a suitable offspring

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    I'd rather stick with the tried and tested species....

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinewhere View Post
    Just....why. Wolves are extremely hard to train. I had a Czechoslovakian Vlcak who was trained in SAR. He was 5 generations removed from the carpathian wolf and if there was no food involved (or hint of food as a reward) he wouldn't do jack. He was stubborn as hell.

    I have another Czechoslovakian Vlcak who is 8 generations removed and much easier to train.

    I don't get why they insist on using wolves, but it's going to take more than one generation to develop a suitable offspring
    Wolves?

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    ^^^ Sweet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest_Hemingway View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by highangle View Post
    Skunkbears are so underrated...

    I had one follow me home from a moose kill. At least two trips almost up to treeline and back. I caught those eyes glowing in the headlamp, and figured he was keeping tabs on his moose meat. I finally left him a big hunk and told him he could drop by and share the rest, all winter, if he didn't eat my kids or my critters.
    I guess the wolves run him off the moose kill, because he showed up a week later and got another hunk of sausage meat. He showed up a couple more times that winter too. I'd see his tracks in the snow in the morning, and bury another hunk of frozen moose meat some place chill.

    This sort of thing may run afoul of the technical letter of the law in some readings, but that wolverine didn't pee all over my moose carcass when he had a good chance to, so I figured we had us a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Can't wait for Black Diamond, Mystery Ranch, or Osprey to develop a pack for that.

    And the Blister Gear and Wildsnow reviews.
    I have a warranty claim on a defective wolverine that chewed my buddies leg off.
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    "Man rescued from avalanche by wolverine, then eaten."

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    Yeah, not going to be long until the wolverine figures out it has a tasty piece of meat trapped in an icebox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stikki View Post
    Yeah, not going to be long until the wolverine figures out it has a tasty piece of meat trapped in an icebox.
    noooo, wolverines are cuddly..



    you guys should read Doug Chadwicks book..,

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    wolverine love

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    Given the time factor that would be involved in a wolverine SAR op (or any BC SAR op), an animal that's good at finding dead meat under avalanches is probably just as well.
    You gonna get in the tram with one of those things at Alyeska? Bet only 1 gets out alive at the top. And it's not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    you guys should read Doug Chadwicks book..,
    2nd that. The Wolverine Way is a great and entertaining study of Gulo Gulo in Glacier Natl Park.

    They tracked one by gps that climbed something like 6k of vertical in two hours and one doing 1000 in 20 min. so yep stuckie, they are the ideal first responder - other than that "eat you while you remain semi buried" part.

    Great story highangle.

    There's a story of one

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    if anyone is interested Kroschel made a movie One Paw or Running Free. It is a Wolverine story. Disney type feature. Fessler and Fredston the avalanche folks coordinated the stunts. They triggered a large avalanche and burned up a plane on the glacier. It is filmed on the Knik where Silverton does there heli guiding. anyway they should take this wolverine to hatcher Pass to find the guy who apparently still has not melted out.
    off your knees Louie

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    Someone needs to post that old Belushi bit.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Can't wait for Black Diamond, Mystery Ranch, or Osprey to develop a pack for that.

    And the Blister Gear and Wildsnow reviews.
    If the Wolverine weighs over 1500 grams Lou won't be a fan.

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    I'm thinking wolverines as tail gunner guides for heli ski ops. Maybe with a mini cask of liquor on their collars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post




    wolverine love
    Seems like he could go the way of Timmy Treadwell.

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