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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion

  1. #14526
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoapuff View Post
    wow brand new undrilled 2014 BGs... such a shame they are shorties. Phatty please find me this same ski in 186
    They have a bunch of new, old stock Moment skis from the same era as well. Unfortunately they are shorties, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Cease and Desist is the best powder ski of all time. Fight me.


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    I will never sell my 2017 asym mega rocker C&D. Nothing beats them on a heavy snow pow day. Mob over everything and shut down and pivot on a dime. They’re my KT Mothership rockets

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll View Post
    I would like to purchase the BG now please, or if anyone has the last gen 187 they would like to part with.
    Just wait another day or so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    I will never sell my 2017 asym mega rocker C&D. Nothing beats them on a heavy snow pow day. Mob over everything and shut down and pivot on a dime. They’re my KT Mothership rockets
    Hell yeah!


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    How are the 2014 BG’s compared to current iteration? I have a friend who’s starting to get into freeride comps that those might match the description.


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  6. #14531
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Just wait another day or so.


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    Roger that.

    Living in regret I didn’t snag those woods from you. Hoping something will pop up in factory finds .

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll View Post
    Roger that.

    Living in regret I didn’t snag those woods from you. Hoping something will pop up in factory finds .
    Yeah, those Woods found a good home either way, haha.
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  8. #14533
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    How are the 2014 BG’s compared to current iteration? I have a friend who’s starting to get into freeride comps that those might match the description.


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    It's my favorite ski ever. I have 2 pair and always have an eye out for more. I can't see myself ever without a pair. Nothing can match the ability to pivot, float as well as crush everything. Only weakness is on groomers back to the lift, but it's better than many say. If there's anything over 4", I grab these.

    Can't compare to current, but don't think many have skied the current version.

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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Sooooo…I got a little tease approved.

    187 BG from the last couple years on the left. Something fucking magical about to be announced on the right. I’m in love [emoji6]

    Let’s play just the tip.

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    You should have been here yesterday!

  10. #14535
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    It's my favorite ski ever. I have 2 pair and always have an eye out for more. I can't see myself ever without a pair. Nothing can match the ability to pivot, float as well as crush everything. Only weakness is on groomers back to the lift, but it's better than many say. If there's anything over 4", I grab these.

    Can't compare to current, but don't think many have skied the current version.
    Not just saying this…BUT…you will be extremely pleased with the model I just teased after reading this.


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    I’ve been telling myself one more day since December! Excited for these

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Sooooo…I got a little tease approved.

    187 BG from the last couple years on the left. Something fucking magical about to be announced on the right. I’m in love [emoji6]

    Let’s play just the tip.
    What in the what..?! LFG
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    deets, DEETS

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    Some deets would be clutch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Sooooo…I got a little tease approved.

    187 BG from the last couple years on the left. Something fucking magical about to be announced on the right. I’m in love [emoji6]

    Let’s play just the tip.

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    Kinda feels like the good ‘ole days having Powtron tease new BGs.
    In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...

  17. #14542
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Not just saying this…BUT…you will be extremely pleased with the model I just teased after reading this.


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    I hope you are right. The previous 192 just didn't work out for me. The new ones look great and I want to believe, I'm just hesitant after my recent experience. I'm taking a wait and see approach, but nothing would make me happier than to have the BG reclaim it's throne. Beats me begging Marshall to remake the old one. [emoji28]

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    I hope you are right. The previous 192 just didn't work out for me. The new ones look great and I want to believe, I'm just hesitant after my recent experience. I'm taking a wait and see approach, but nothing would make me happier than to have the BG reclaim it's throne. Beats me begging Marshall to remake the old one. [emoji28]

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    What don’t you like about the new ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    What don’t you like about the new ones?
    They are the past generation (20-23), not the ones that will be available. They felt more locked in and lost much of the pivotability. They railed groomers (who cares), but didn't deal with heavy pow as well. This is for the 192. Reports are the 187 was more dialed.

    In continental snow (UT/CO), they were great. Unfortunately I live in WA, where they didn't shine as well. I'm sure most would be fine with them, but they didn't really compare to the 2014s.

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    I'm really interested in this new BG and have been waiting patiently to see what emerged. I almost ordered one of last season's models back in June but decided to wait.

    What I'm looking for is a resort pow ski, a ski I can take out on those deep days when the first half of the day is chasing fresh lines and the second half is battling deep chop. I'm smaller in stature (5'6" 160lbs) and I like a ski with heft, something that goes with my "more muscle, less finesse" style. Before this season I picked up some Chipotle Bananas to try to fill this role, and had them out in Alta last week. They absolutely destroyed the chop and were a lot of fun. I was surprised at how quick I could pivot and throw them around, enabling me to recover at speed whenever the terrain tried to knock me off line. They were a lot of fun. But also a bit of work. A good chunk of the time it was like I strapped two sledgehammers to my feet and away we went. Perhaps this is a product of my early season fitness -- and counting the months/weeks/days until double-knee replacement -- but at times I felt like they were driving me. And I wasn't as comfortable with them in deep untouched as I couldn't lean into them as much as I wanted.

    Will the BG give me a bit more of the control I'm seeking? I think I would definitely like the mount point being further back, as I would hope this would give me a bit more ability to drive the front of the ski. But I don't know. Is this the ski I'm looking for? For typical soft days, I'm on the Countach and that ski is everything I wanted for that role. It's precise when I want it to be, but I'm amazed at how easy it is to release the tails when necessary. I read someone refer to the Countach a "skinnier BG," which also has me considering my options. Appreciate any insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Not just saying this…BUT…you will be extremely pleased with the model I just teased after reading this.


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    Can we at least get like, an approximate drop date so I can count down the days on my calendar? I've been a very good boy this year but I promise I can change.

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    The Billy Goat 118 always finds its way. For 2024, we've extended our trademark RES into the tips for a less boxy, more drivable sidecut, capable of adjusting on-the-fly to pilot feedback. We also cinched some tail length, which allows for better mount proportions to drive into the forefoot, and improve responsiveness. We kept the flatter tail of its predecessor for strong tail support, and both lowered the camber and pushed its apex forward for a more predictable ride in the face of unpredictable terrain - the Billy Goat blurs the limits of line choice as far as you're willing to go.
    What does "cinched some tail length" mean? This all sounds less loose and more dialed for firmer snow to me, or do I have this wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullStop View Post
    What does "cinched some tail length" mean? This all sounds less loose and more dialed for firmer snow to me, or do I have this wrong?
    I think it’s just in reference to everything now being a 186. probably took it off the back of the ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    Beats me begging Marshall to remake the old one. [emoji28]

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    I'm sure that would go over well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FullStop View Post
    What does "cinched some tail length" mean?
    It means they moved the mount point back. Or you could think of it as they kept the same amount of tip and took the cm from the tail when the sizes shorted a cm (e.g., 187 to 186), as mentioned above -- although I'd be surprised if the mount point moved rearward a full cm in all sizes of both the Woodsman and BG (but that might be accurate).
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