Just wait another day or so.
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Hell yeah!
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You should have been here yesterday!
How are the 2014 BG’s compared to current iteration? I have a friend who’s starting to get into freeride comps that those might match the description.
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It's my favorite ski ever. I have 2 pair and always have an eye out for more. I can't see myself ever without a pair. Nothing can match the ability to pivot, float as well as crush everything. Only weakness is on groomers back to the lift, but it's better than many say. If there's anything over 4", I grab these.
Can't compare to current, but don't think many have skied the current version.
Not just saying this…BUT…you will be extremely pleased with the model I just teased after reading this.
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You should have been here yesterday!
I’ve been telling myself one more day since December! Excited for these
deets, DEETS
Some deets would be clutch.
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I hope you are right. The previous 192 just didn't work out for me. The new ones look great and I want to believe, I'm just hesitant after my recent experience. I'm taking a wait and see approach, but nothing would make me happier than to have the BG reclaim it's throne. Beats me begging Marshall to remake the old one. [emoji28]
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They are the past generation (20-23), not the ones that will be available. They felt more locked in and lost much of the pivotability. They railed groomers (who cares), but didn't deal with heavy pow as well. This is for the 192. Reports are the 187 was more dialed.
In continental snow (UT/CO), they were great. Unfortunately I live in WA, where they didn't shine as well. I'm sure most would be fine with them, but they didn't really compare to the 2014s.
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I'm really interested in this new BG and have been waiting patiently to see what emerged. I almost ordered one of last season's models back in June but decided to wait.
What I'm looking for is a resort pow ski, a ski I can take out on those deep days when the first half of the day is chasing fresh lines and the second half is battling deep chop. I'm smaller in stature (5'6" 160lbs) and I like a ski with heft, something that goes with my "more muscle, less finesse" style. Before this season I picked up some Chipotle Bananas to try to fill this role, and had them out in Alta last week. They absolutely destroyed the chop and were a lot of fun. I was surprised at how quick I could pivot and throw them around, enabling me to recover at speed whenever the terrain tried to knock me off line. They were a lot of fun. But also a bit of work. A good chunk of the time it was like I strapped two sledgehammers to my feet and away we went. Perhaps this is a product of my early season fitness -- and counting the months/weeks/days until double-knee replacement -- but at times I felt like they were driving me. And I wasn't as comfortable with them in deep untouched as I couldn't lean into them as much as I wanted.
Will the BG give me a bit more of the control I'm seeking? I think I would definitely like the mount point being further back, as I would hope this would give me a bit more ability to drive the front of the ski. But I don't know. Is this the ski I'm looking for? For typical soft days, I'm on the Countach and that ski is everything I wanted for that role. It's precise when I want it to be, but I'm amazed at how easy it is to release the tails when necessary. I read someone refer to the Countach a "skinnier BG," which also has me considering my options. Appreciate any insight.
What does "cinched some tail length" mean? This all sounds less loose and more dialed for firmer snow to me, or do I have this wrong?The Billy Goat 118 always finds its way. For 2024, we've extended our trademark RES into the tips for a less boxy, more drivable sidecut, capable of adjusting on-the-fly to pilot feedback. We also cinched some tail length, which allows for better mount proportions to drive into the forefoot, and improve responsiveness. We kept the flatter tail of its predecessor for strong tail support, and both lowered the camber and pushed its apex forward for a more predictable ride in the face of unpredictable terrain - the Billy Goat blurs the limits of line choice as far as you're willing to go.
It means they moved the mount point back. Or you could think of it as they kept the same amount of tip and took the cm from the tail when the sizes shorted a cm (e.g., 187 to 186), as mentioned above -- although I'd be surprised if the mount point moved rearward a full cm in all sizes of both the Woodsman and BG (but that might be accurate).
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