ON3P SKIS Discussion

[telemarek]

Anyone trying to get rid of some 108/110 Jeffreys? 186 or 192 length.

[phatty]

Anyone trying to get rid of some 108/110 Jeffreys? 186 or 192 length.

There's 3 pair of 186 Jeff 108s on OfferUp in Seattle.

[sf]

On a side not - it admittedly pained me to sell the white eagle ski, but their new home is worthy squared so I guess I've come to terms with it

Finally got around to mounting these up. Thanks KK

[kid-kapow]

Finally got around to mounting these up. Thanks KK

Damn, so nice! The white eagle soars over most graphics imho - sooooo nice.

!!!

Those skis represent my biggest loss in selling a pair of skis ever, yet so happy that they're in the best of hands. They should be perfect skis for your neck of the woods.

Asym is to loose for me the snow we get here

[paal]

Kid-kapow, you have both the 2017- and last years version of the BG, right(?)

Could you please post some rocker comparison photos of the two? 😇

[kid-kapow]

Kid-kapow, you have both the 2017- and last years version of the BG, right(?)

Could you please post some rocker comparison photos of the two? 

2017:

asym:

2023:

[paal]

Perfect!
Thanks a lot! 🙂

[Marko888]

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So this is what is known - same exact shape, somewhere in the 15-21% lighter range depending on length, and prob killer graphics.

edit to add:
well - I have to admit that it is kinda hard not to state that these three pairs look smashing together. Oh my.
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I saw these 2024 skis live last week… they look even better in person!

[kid-kapow]

I saw these 2024 skis live last week… they look even better in person!

speaking of 2024 skis that look sensational


"Fleet-of-foot uphill combined w/ enough backbone to point down the fall line, the Woodsman Tour Series are our newest alpine dual-threats. For 2024, our updated freeride rocker has all the versatility you know & love, w/ a lengthened tip engagement zone that grips stronger & carves deeper. This is complimented by a sharpened radius underfoot, & a comparable shovel width to its wider predecessor, allowing for tighter edge hold & increased float, without unnecessary bulk 💚🪶

All Tour skis feature our custom Tour Layup, which saves a pound (~400g) per ski without sacrificing our signature dampness or durability - comprised of our custom 2800 hybrid fiberglass/carbon composite, proprietary bamboo-pawlonia hybrid cores, full length UHMW sidewalls, 1.4mm Durasurf 4001 base, and 2x2mm edge, the Woodsman Tour is uphill-capable for strong skiers who value downhill speed & stability equally to their ascent."

They sure tick a lot of boxes for everyday touring skis. Cann't wait for the BG108 and 118 tours to drop too

[Bandit Man]

Graphics do look amazing on the 2024 models.

Anybody actually skied any of the updated models?

With the early excitement and positive response to the Heritage Lab skis, I wonder who has any scratch left for $849 ON3P’s…


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[Velomayniac]

edit: I want Billy Goats

[Sessiøn]

Graphics do look amazing on the 2024 models.

Anybody actually skied any of the updated models?

With the early excitement and positive response to the Heritage Lab skis, I wonder who has any scratch left for $849 ON3P’s…


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I would say the identity and characteristics of each brand are pretty far apart. So people not looking for the skis HL makes. If ON3P had to survive on TGR tech talk alone they would no longer be in business at least not using the business model of actually being a manufacturer.

[jacob_dbu]

Graphics do look amazing on the 2024 models.

Anybody actually skied any of the updated models?

With the early excitement and positive response to the Heritage Lab skis, I wonder who has any scratch left for $849 ON3P’s…


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Damn lotta hate here haha…I mean yeah they are hella expensive now, but I also haven’t found a ski that skis like ON3P up here in the PNW. Something special in that bamboo core that just feels so good in heavy wet mank.

[Tailwind]

I’ve never paid full price for a pair of skis but I’m planning on getting some Billy Goat tours.

I’d say I’m as stoked about On3p as I’ve been about them at any point in the past. It’s easy to spend $800 on skis made overseas with not even comparable construction.

[jacob_dbu]

Not to mention Black Crows skis are over a grand. They seem to be doing fine

[BeHuWe]

Graphics do look amazing on the 2024 models.

Anybody actually skied any of the updated models?

With the early excitement and positive response to the Heritage Lab skis, I wonder who has any scratch left for $849 ON3P’s…


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I’m just hoping they have enough scratch left to snag my 50/50 layup 110’s…

Because I’m a child and want to try updated Jeff 108 shape for ‘24


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[ASmileyFace]

HL skis are a pretty unique situation, and downright cheap in comparison to a lot of the skis we all love on this board. Marshal is exclusively catering to us forum warriors so the volume is on a completely different level than a brand like ON3P. Also, I wouldn't mistake a lack of interest here as a sign the brand is struggling. We are a fickle group of nerds who are more interested in the most recent shinny thing.

I have been nothing but impressed by all the ON3P's I've had over the years and wouldn't hesitate to pay $800+ for a pair again if I was in need. They make awesome skis in the USA and are still cheaper than Black Crows, DPS, and basically every other boutique custom ski brand out there. Plus, they last forever... it took an avalanche to kill my Steeple 102s lol.

[kid-kapow]

With the early excitement and positive response to the Heritage Lab skis, I wonder who has any scratch left for $849 ON3P’s

This made me laugh out loud, because it is true - HL is amazing value for the nichest of niche skis. Their designs seem dialed as do their build quality, construction and finishing - Marshal is spoiling us for sure.

I do think that ON3P offer great value as well (though the current exchange rate makes them out of my reach at present) even if some of the changes have yet to prove their worth. I can't help but feel to be listened to by Iggy though as most of the changes are stuff that has been requested up-thread or to ON3P directly. Sure, the new Woods could be -6 like the OG and it would be beyond sweet if they offered them with partial ti as well - but I will be surprised if the new generation do not ski pretty damn well. Perhaps the slight changes to the jeff will enable them to loose the Blister hot take of not being good on firm snow

we are indeed fortunate to be able to choose amongst so many killer skis nowadays.

[dmcd]

There isn't a ton of overlap between most of ON3Ps customers and HLs outside of people looking for reverse camber mid-fats. People showing up to stores in December that carry ON3P to buy a new set of skis are not the people on this board who will be waiting for sales next year (me). Hopefully ON3P decides to play ball with Blister this year and get them on some of these new models because the changes are very interesting.

[phatty]

After my experience with the last generation 192 BG, I've decided not to be a tester for ON3P updates. The skis are beautiful, the finish top notch and I still love the brand. I'm just not buying again until others I respect chime in with reviews. I've got a couple pairs of old 191s and a pair of asyms to get me by until they nail it again.

I'm definitely Jeff 118/116 curious and may pick up a pair based on the glowing reviews here and other places.

[eSock]

Well if anyone is looking to avoid paying full price, I've got some 189cm bg108t + pomoca skins going up for sale soon

[Bandit Man]

This made me laugh out loud, because it is true - HL is amazing value for the nichest of niche skis. Their designs seem dialed as do their build quality, construction and finishing - Marshal is spoiling us for sure.

I do think that ON3P offer great value as well (though the current exchange rate makes them out of my reach at present) even if some of the changes have yet to prove their worth. I can't help but feel to be listened to by Iggy though as most of the changes are stuff that has been requested up-thread or to ON3P directly. Sure, the new Woods could be -6 like the OG and it would be beyond sweet if they offered them with partial ti as well - but I will be surprised if the new generation do not ski pretty damn well. Perhaps the slight changes to the jeff will enable them to loose the Blister hot take of not being good on firm snow

we are indeed fortunate to be able to choose amongst so many killer skis nowadays.

Somebody understands the point I was trying to make. [emoji6]

I’m with Phatty, though. No longer going to be an experimental tester for ON3P. No reviews. No demos. Obviously playing to a more “loyal” customer base than a few of us curmudgeons. [emoji16]

Hope the new skis feel as good on snow as they look online. Looking forward to reviews from the fan base.


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[kid-kapow]

Hopefully ON3P decides to play ball with Blister this year and get them on some of these new models because the changes are very interesting.

Yeah, I am sure that they will send some skis to Blister before long.

Iggy mentioned that not sending skis to Blister (starts at 28min) over the last few seasons has been down to their / his limited capacity to respond to potential customers, already not having enough of the most popular models to cater to demand as is, and supply chain issues taking a lot more time to manage. ON3P doubling down on selling custom skis also limits their ability to maintain the stock lineup, so reviews that increases demand could hurt the brand in the short run if people can't get hold of the skis. Demos have not happened due to Covid and resorts not being willing to host, together with Scott not wanting to reserve skis from an already limited stock of stock skis in order to have people try them, and then a) not being able to sell them skis because they are sold out and b) having to sell the demo skis at a steep discount instead of at retail.

i am looking forward to the 23/24 podcast

[skiracer88_00]

Anyone ever dealt with ON3P on a warranty repair? The tails on my 2022 wrens started to delam near the end last season and ON3P had be send them in for repair. They sent me one email saying they received them on August 7th and it has been radio silence ever since. I have sent an email asking for an update on average every 2 weeks and have heard nothing. I also left two voice mails at the factory that have not been returned.

I love the brand and the skis, and have become fiercely loyal to them over the years (I ski nothing but ON3P), but I am getting a bit nervous I won't ever get my skis back or my pivot 18 bindings that were mounted to them.

[Velomayniac]

Always sucks when companies do that, but I'm sure you'll get them back.