What hole patterns are shared with Tyrolia Thunderbolt 18 bindings?

[dfinn]

Just recently picked up some used skis off of ebay and they came with Tyrolia Thunderbolt 18 bindings, I believe these are from a season or 2 ago but not positive. I'm wondering what, if any bindings might share these same hole patterns that I could switch to and save some weight? These 18 dinners are super heavy and way overkill. Any chance that the new Attack 16 din share the same holes and save enough weight that it would be worth swapping them?

[Cocximus]

Never heard of the thunderbolts. They don't even appear in the shop manual.

Assuming they are like the peak 18 series, from the manual http://ci.create-ion.at/files/2008_2....08.09.eng.pdf
Great bindings btw.

HEAD
FREEFLEX PRO 18 (X), FREEFLEX PRO 16, FREEFLEX PRO 14, FREEFLEX PRO 12, FREEFLEX PRO 11, MOJO 18
(X), MOJO 15, MOJO 12, MOJO 11, MOJO 7.5, LD 12, SL 110 ABS, SL 100, ONE LD 12, ONE SL 90,
SL 90 ABS JR RACE, SL 75, SL 70 AC, FREEFLEX PLUS 11
TYROLIA
FREEFLEX PRO 18 (X), FREEFLEX PRO 17, FREEFLEX PRO 15, FREEFLEX PRO 11, PEAK 18 (X), PEAK 15,
PEAK 12, PEAK 11, LD 12, SL 100, SL 75, SL 70 AC, SL 110 CARVE ABS
TYROLIa inside
4FRNT: DEADBOLT TEAM 18, DEADBOLT 15, DEADBOLT 12, PADLOCK 11, PADLOCK 7
AMPLID: AMPLID 0NE 8, AMPLID FTF, AMPLID DZN PALMER: PALMER 12

[PlayItLeo]

I'm pretty sure the Thunderbolts were/are the same as the Peak/Deadbolt 18s. I'm also pretty sure the Peaks share the same pattern as the Attacks.

[dfinn]

I might have mixed that up, it looks like 4frnt calls them the Thunderbolt. Tyrolia must call them something else. They are these:

http://www.backcountry.com/4frnt-ski...lt-ski-binding

[Cocximus]

Yea looks like the attack toe is still the same pattern. Same heel. Guess only the adrenalin and abition differ.

[dfinn]

anyone happen to know if the weight difference between these 18 din thunderbolts and something like the attack 16 would be enough of a difference to make it worth trying to track down a pair and swap them out? I can't find much for weights on the thunderbolts.

[fatnslow]

if you want a high din alpine binding they will most likely be mostly metal=heavy. What are you planning on this setup that weight is that important ?

[Cocximus]

"For optimal backcountry performance, powder skiing or park& pipe action the new Attack 18X is equipped with Magnesium
wings for more solidity and stability. With the specific AAA construction the binding is 160g lighter than the previous Peak 18X "

attack 18 2380G
attack 16 2130g
attack 13 1940g
attack 12 1940g
attack 11 1660 G

[Cocximus]

I just saw the whole attack series has the FR Pro Toe, so it's compatible with AT boots.

[dfinn]

Not touring with them or anything, just surprised at how damn heavy these things are and I regularly ski metal bindings and skis with metal in them. Doesn't sound like it's worth the effort to try and find some attack bindings.