Wagon Stoke

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Yeah, I’m thinking fwd + snows is pretty solid…it ain’t no slouch at 225hp

340hp V8 tho for the Audi sled, jezus

[Foggy_Goggles]

I'd sell that car and get him a shit box...do we need a thread about college kids are cars? Do I have to tell stories about Mines students?

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I'd sell that car and get him a shit box...do we need a thread about college kids are cars? Do I have to tell stories about Mines students?

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Yes, but maybe not in this thread

[gravitylover]

The thing is he has a car (currently garaged at home since freshmen can’t have a car on campus & that he still owes us $1k for [we split it]). But starting his first winter in CO is making him reconsider not having 4wd. I think he could just put some snows on the car he has. Swedes are familiar with snow, no?
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My C30 with Dunlop Wintersports was fantastic in the snow.

Ooh check out this wagon https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...ibextid=dXMIcH

[MontuckyFried]

I think he could just put some snows on the car he has. Swedes are familiar with snow, no?

Yup! Just toss some Nokians on it and it should prove to be surprisingly competent. The C30 is VERY front heavy (like a 62 Front/38 Rear split), so the drive wheel traction will be pretty good with the correct tires for the season.

[Ted Striker]

Ooh check out this wagon https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...ibextid=dXMIcH

There was a band named 64 Funnycars that had a song titled AMC Pacer. One of the lines was "everybody's always trying to put me down 'cause it's the ugliest, fastest car in town"

[lowsparkco]

Another Subaru complaint…. I switch wheel sets on my Audi and my wife’s Forester twice a year. Both the spring switch over and now the fall switch, one of the studs sheared off during removal.

Asked the Les Schwab tech and he says Subies run a real tight thread pattern and often cross thread.

I run these all the way to the wheel by hand and none of them were cross threaded. I also use a torque wrench to tighten them, so they are installed correctly. I think there’s some inherent corrosion that happens. Maybe I should use new lug nuts every year? Not a problem on the Audi which uses lug bolts.

[365wp]

I think he could just put some snows on the car he has.

I drove my 95 GTI (FWD) with Blizzaks over Berthoud plenty of times. One of the reasons I traded it for an Outback was to get a little more ground clearance after a rock on the pass took out the oil pan on my friend's car.

Back east, the access road to Bolton Valley can be surprisingly gnarly, but our Jetta with snows always made it.

Looks like we're going with a used Mazda CX-9 to replace the Jetta. I'm still eyeing Volvo wagons for the future...just put some $$$ in the Pilot, but I know at some point it will be time for it to go.

[plugboots]

In about 25 years of driving in the snow, I've can't recall conditions where a competent driver in a solid FWD car with snows couldn't get to a destination that an AWD wagon with the same tires could have.

I can definitely recall some times where I had to back way off the car in front in my Golf before going full send up a hill because I knew that was the only way I'd make it.

My driveway is that location. It’s very steep and tightly curved. The curve is right at the steepest part so if you don’t maintain momentum, which can be very difficult when it’s icy for half the year, all the weight shifts to the back and the tires spin. Turning off the nannies helps and adds to the rally effect, but even my BMW does better than my buddy’s Audi, because of the rear bias.

[toast2266]

My driveway is that location. It’s very steep and tightly curved. The curve is right at the steepest part so if you don’t maintain momentum, which can be very difficult when it’s icy for half the year, all the weight shifts to the back and the tires spin. Turning off the nannies helps and adds to the rally effect, but even my BMW does better than my buddy’s Audi, because of the rear bias.

Same. Long, steep, and north facing which means it sometimes gets extended melt / freeze cycles. There were a few weeks every winter where I couldn't get my FWD car up it (with studs and a limited slip differential). AWD Audi makes it up no problem.

[plugboots]

Last winter was our first winter with the all-wheel-drive Prius, which has only something like 8 hp motors in the rear, and only come on below 20 miles an hour or something. Anyway, that car would go up my driveway perfectly. It just seemed maybe because of the lightweight or all the torque of the electric motors or ?
The worst cars are front wheel drive minivans, or probably anything that’s large with front wheel drive only. It doesn’t seem to matter what tires they have.


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[anotherVTskibum]

My driveway is that location. It’s very steep and tightly curved. The curve is right at the steepest part so if you don’t maintain momentum, which can be very difficult when it’s icy for half the year, all the weight shifts to the back and the tires spin. Turning off the nannies helps and adds to the rally effect, but even my BMW does better than my buddy’s Audi, because of the rear bias.

I've heard it suggested, and it makes sense in theory, that going up backwards works better in that scenario (puts the drive wheels on the downhill end of the car), but it seems like correcting for sliding would be a bitch.

Now that you mention it, I did have a friend in Vermont with a long, curvy, and uphill driveway that would probably fall into that category. I never tried it in the winter, though, and I'm pretty sure he was in the habit of shuttling as necessary (there were parking pullouts both at the bottom and part of the way up).

[plugboots]

I’d pay money to watch folks back up my driveway at night with the snow piled up 4’ on each side.
As long as my cars are at the bottom.

[Dromond]

Another Subaru complaint…. I switch wheel sets on my Audi and my wife’s Forester twice a year. Both the spring switch over and now the fall switch, one of the studs sheared off during removal.

Asked the Les Schwab tech and he says Subies run a real tight thread pattern and often cross thread.

I run these all the way to the wheel by hand and none of them were cross threaded. I also use a torque wrench to tighten them, so they are installed correctly. I think there’s some inherent corrosion that happens. Maybe I should use new lug nuts every year? Not a problem on the Audi which uses lug bolts.

My friend just sheared off a stud switching wheels on his fairly new Crosstrek. It hasn’t happened on any of mine.

[lowsparkco]

My friend just sheared off a stud switching wheels on his fairly new Crosstrek. It hasn’t happened on any of mine.

Be careful. I’m going to use all new lug nuts on my wife’s in the spring. I think it’s pretty cheap insurance. Some of the nuts had just enough thread damage to hang a little on the posts. I’ve paid $70 for post replacement twice. Next step is probably doing that myself too.

[MontuckyFried]

I’m going to use all new lug nuts on my wife’s in the spring. I think it’s pretty cheap insurance.

It really is. Especially if the old ones are getting questionable. Easy enough to clean up the threads on the studs too while you're at it too.

[schuss]

or put anti-seize on it or some light oil? new lugs feels excessive.

[fatnslow]

It really is. Especially if the old ones are getting questionable. Easy enough to clean up the threads on the studs too while you're at it too.

This, get yourself a correct size die and give it a quick them a quick chase.

[Timberridge]

What does Subaru use for studs and nuts, cheap Chinese grade 2 stuff?
Or are you guys zipp-zipping them on at 200 lb/ft?

Don't lube your studs/nuts either, it effs up the torque settings.

[Buster Highmen]

Don't lube your studs/nuts either, it effs up the torque settings.

The voice of experience.

[Timberridge]

You don't want your nuts to fall off.

[BmillsSkier]

All this talk about nuts and what not reminds me of Ron White’s Sears tire bit.

[johnnyg82]

What does Subaru use for studs and nuts, cheap Chinese grade 2 stuff?
Or are you guys zipp-zipping them on at 200 lb/ft?

Don't lube your studs/nuts either, it effs up the torque settings.

Most likely Denso, from their Toyota overlord.

[Core Shot]

Nut lube
Heh. Heh.


But yeah. The torque spec is dry.
Doesn’t mean that a bit of light machine oil is gonna kill you.
How’s the torque spec change when the nuts or studs have corrosion?

Never used anti seize. But a small amount of oil and or chasing threads or wire brushing should help.

[MakersTeleMark]

Putting any type of lube on lug nuts is fucking stupid. Get a torque bar for your impact and be done with it.