Which ski to mount with tech bindings?

[DougW]

Or be fit, get light boots, and tour 3x further.

Or as I could lose 20lbs, if I did that it would be a bigger plus than light boots. All I have to be is faster than the slowest person in the group not go any further. Though I'm getting invites to tour with ex guides so that is going to be a problem.

[DougW]

Yes Factors are about .6 to .8 kg per pair heavier than other touring boots certainly that is going to make a difference , but my outlay on the factors was $260 including tech blocks , another pair of tech boots would be at least twice that. And the Factors are the same BSL as my alpine boots so I can ski them at the hill to break them in.

[skimaxpower]

Though I'm getting invites to tour with ex guides so that is going to be a problem.

humblebrag

[DougW]

humblebrag

I can see the comment but it was more a comment that I have said no as lighter rig was not set up and fitness level. |Didn't want to be goat way in the back holding everyone up.

[Beyond]

Or as I could lose 20lbs, if I did that it would be a bigger plus than light boots. All I have to be is faster than the slowest person in the group not go any further. Though I'm getting invites to tour with ex guides so that is going to be a problem.

FWIW, comparing body weight with ski rig weight is apples and oranges. Your body weight is spread out. Your rig weight is at the end of a long lever arm - series of linked arms, really - so its weight is multiplied by the distance from hip joint. Same reason wearing a light pack isn't as noticeable as having heavier skis. If you're talking about less work, less 02 to haul around around lighter body, all true, but doesn't change the physics.

[Name Redacted]

Sell the Factors and Megawatts, get some Maestrale RS (or something in that range), and a pair of midweight, 105mm skis(Carbon Converts). Get some mohair skins to go along with that.

[DougW]

FWIW, comparing body weight with ski rig weight is apples and oranges. Your body weight is spread out. Your rig weight is at the end of a long lever arm - series of linked arms, really - so its weight is multiplied by the distance from hip joint. Same reason wearing a light pack isn't as noticeable as having heavier skis. If you're talking about less work, less 02 to haul around around lighter body, all true, but doesn't change the physics.

I was aware of that , isn't the ratio in pack vs on feet 3 to 1?

[Lindahl]

its 5 to 1 for hiking. Technically speaking, for skiing, its probably a bit more complicated since sometimes you're gliding (skinning flat), sometimes hiking, and sometimes its somewhere in between (skinning uphill).

[XavierD]

why don't you ignore all the acquisitive gear nuts on this forum - it won't cost you anything.

Best advice ever given on this board.

[DougW]

was able to pick up a pair of BD 184 Currents for less the $300 Can so went for it

so not nothing but not bad

[XXX-er]

in real world testing I put the dif between my heavy alpine boot/FR+/JJ setup and my all dynafit light setup at 10-15% time wise on the up track, sure you can do it but you pay for the weight lack of ROM in effort, counting grams is all fine BUT at the end of the day you still gotta ski downhill ... that super light gear still has to perform

OP said he skis at rogers pass IME the skin tracks go straight up, it is THE place I would want W2W skins for sure

A couple of buds ditched their Factors for the maestrale RS, the feed back i hear is they fit about the same, are lighter, better ROM, ski better

now is the time to buy ski gear