V3 - '15 NE thread

[Tuckerman]

Lets do it. Ill PM you my number send me a text when you are ready to ride.

[MaineSkiAddict1]

Heading to Carrabassett this weekend and next. There is a Nemba event this weekend and a trail building day next Saturday which will culminate with their "Oktoberfest". Anyone headed up?

[strawjack]

build season is pretty much here...kinda sorta

[Vt-Freeheel]

build season is pretty much here...kinda sorta

Not quite, ferns are holding strong around here, very minimal leaf drop. Sight lines still too short, keep riding.

[gravitylover]

It's been so dry here there's very little undergrowth this year. Building and modifying has been an ongoing project all year.

[robrox]

Yup, lots of limited sight distance at Blueberry Lake today. A bit of color...great day for it.

[BushwackerinPA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eaoa1wObMo

some stoke from Cady Falls today. My buddy Elliot following me and my Dog leading out.

[gravitylover]

So for two years now all I've ridden is my Fatboy, actually took a couple of my other bikes out a few times and felt like I was cheating on my wife or something. Weird right?

Anyway, 10 pounds too heavy, full rigid and mid range parts but DAMN if I'm not having so much fun each ride resonates for hours after. Wet, dry, muddy, sandy, frozen whatever the fuck is in front of me I have the right tool. Every few weeks I hit another personal best whether it's fastest time on a loop, a new best on a climb or pulling off a move I've always wanted but couldn't quite get.

Today I got two out of three and equaled my climb times without killing myself to do it. So what to do? I think I need a bike ten pounds lighter

[gravitylover]

Haha

Anybody got like $4k I can "borrow?"

[HankScorpio]

Vietnam was dry, fast and empty on Sunday afternoon. Great riding weather.

[strawjack]

Not quite, ferns are holding strong around here, very minimal leaf drop. Sight lines still too short, keep riding.

Yeah, where I build the sight lines are not an issue. I take path of least resistance and not a lot of undergrowth. It's more about the bugs. Of course, I started to move some down logs for a new line and disturbed a wasp nest. (I think...didn't seem like yellow jackets as they were kind of fat looking) Anyway, 6 stings before I was able to jump on my bike and then end up completely anaerobic a mile away I fucked with their house and they fucked with me

[JerseyDave]

Yeah, where I build the sight lines are not an issue. I take path of least resistance and not a lot of undergrowth. It's more about the bugs. Of course, I started to move some down logs for a new line and disturbed a wasp nest. (I think...didn't seem like yellow jackets as they were kind of fat looking) Anyway, 6 stings before I was able to jump on my bike and then end up completely anaerobic a mile away I fucked with their house and they fucked with me

Ground Hornets. They get super pissed after the first frost and start attacking anything that rumbles by. They'll have nests right on trail all year with no ish, but once the frost comes....3rd guy in line get's lit up all over cause the first 2 guys that rolled through awoke the angry swarm. Weird, but super common in fall riding around here.

[strawjack]

Ground Hornets. They get super pissed after the first frost and start attacking anything that rumbles by. They'll have nests right on trail all year with no ish, but once the frost comes....3rd guy in line get's lit up all over cause the first 2 guys that rolled through awoke the angry swarm. Weird, but super common in fall riding around here.

Yeah, the same happened last year on a new line I built. On strava I named the line/segment 'hornets'. Looking on line it's difficult to say what they are...hornets or wasps. But the hornets are apparently Bald Faced Hornets and have a fair amount of black/brown coloring. The ones that nailed me were very yellow. It very well could just be yellow jackets...just a little fatter than what I assume them to be.

I went back yesterday to see the nest and it's pretty exposed now. Looks like it was at the base of a downed tree that I moved. I didn't get close enough to get a good look at them...I'm scared . Damn stings were super itchy. The good news is that it shouldn't change my new line. There is plenty of room to avoid their condo.

[MaineSkiAddict1]

Heading up to Stowe this weekend for our anniversary. Looks like I will be bringing the bike and get can out Sunday AM for a few hours. I'd love to get in on the Leaf Blower but I doubt I can dip out for that long. The guided rides look sweet. Is Cady Hill the best option for maximizing time? (since we are staying in Stowe) I thought about heading back to Waterbury to check out Perry Hill but figured every minute I spend in the car is time away from riding.

[BushwackerinPA]

Heading up to Stowe this weekend for our anniversary. Looks like I will be bringing the bike and get can out Sunday AM for a few hours. I'd love to get in on the Leaf Blower but I doubt I can dip out for that long. The guided rides look sweet. Is Cady Hill the best option for maximizing time? (since we are staying in Stowe) I thought about heading back to Waterbury to check out Perry Hill but figured every minute I spend in the car is time away from riding.

Cady Hill is the best option to maximize time.

http://www.mtbproject.com/trail/5379...t-experts-loop

maps here. you cna ride the entire town loops in 2 hours.

[gravitylover]

That bit o' rain the other day left the soil conditions just about purrfect Unfortunately the fallen leaves are getting thick already and they're a bit wet so when you can find the trail it has some sketchy spots.

[JerseyDave]

Heading up to Stowe this weekend for our anniversary. Looks like I will be bringing the bike and get can out Sunday AM for a few hours. I'd love to get in on the Leaf Blower but I doubt I can dip out for that long. The guided rides look sweet. Is Cady Hill the best option for maximizing time? (since we are staying in Stowe) I thought about heading back to Waterbury to check out Perry Hill but figured every minute I spend in the car is time away from riding.

I rode Cady Hill yesterday. Haven't been in a while but I was in town with the bike and was curious. The place is seriously hammered. Seriously degraded trails and not really representative of VT riding. Take the ride to Waterbury IMO. Ride Green to Blue to Green back up to red to yellow and out. Should be a great 2 hours (probably the best legal 2 hours in the state). Riding Cady Hill looks exactly like the riding I was doing in Morris County New Jersey 20 years ago. Wide....boring....neglected. OR....pay to ride all the Trapps stuff, hardy haul and kimmers. Same style of trail, way less traffic, way less users. IMO,

[milestogo]

I rode Cady Hill yesterday. Haven't been in a while but I was in town with the bike and was curious. The place is seriously hammered. Seriously degraded trails and not really representative of VT riding. Take the ride to Waterbury IMO. Ride Green to Blue to Green back up to red to yellow and out. Should be a great 2 hours (probably the best legal 2 hours in the state). Riding Cady Hill looks exactly like the riding I was doing in Morris County New Jersey 20 years ago. Wide....boring....neglected. OR....pay to ride all the Trapps stuff, hardy haul and kimmers. Same style of trail, way less traffic, way less users. IMO,

That's interesting, because I rode Cady Hill for 2 hrs yesterday and had a great time. True, we need to do some work on Flo and some other spots due to people skidding in the berms or riding when its wet, but the network is far from hammered or neglected. There are plenty of other spots to ride in town as well, and of course, like Dave said, Perry Hill is right down the road. Although neither of those places will provide you with a solitary experience. If you want to stay away from the Cady Hill trails that have been sanitized or are beginner-friendly, ride Zogs and Charlies in both directions and same with Schween Haus loops. If you need any more info, Im sure that Bushwacker, Dave or I could give you more specific advice depending on what kind of trails you want to ride. Feel free to PM me if I can help.

[JerseyDave]

That's interesting, because I rode Cady Hill for 2 hrs yesterday and had a great time. True, we need to do some work on Flo and some other spots due to people skidding in the berms or riding when its wet, but the network is far from hammered or neglected. There are plenty of other spots to ride in town as well, and of course, like Dave said, Perry Hill is right down the road. Although neither of those places will provide you with a solitary experience. If you want to stay away from the Cady Hill trails that have been sanitized or are beginner-friendly, ride Zogs and Charlies in both directions and same with Schween Haus loops. If you need any more info, Im sure that Bushwacker, Dave or I could give you more specific advice depending on what kind of trails you want to ride. Feel free to PM me if I can help.

You have to be kidding. I mean, I have fun riding my bike around town, doesn't mean it's sweet MTBing. Bridgey is well over 10 feet wide in many places. Schweenhause loops are the same. Good volunteer work up top there, but the climb and decent are smoked. Not sure how folks define single track up there but 8-10 foot wide blown apart earth isn't what we used to ride there. Bears? SO hammered. Not even close to riding like it once did. 4-6 inches of material gone from the trail tread, roots are like stair steps now because of it, and so people are riding well off trail to avoid them. Flo, while I find a lot of it boring and redundant, actually is holding up a little better than I thought after watching it get torn up for the first couple months, but to even put the experience Cady Hill is offering up right now in the same realm as Perry Hill is providing is misleading at best. I laughed out loud at the condition of those trails several times. I may be a bit of a trail snob, but if given the choice between Cady Hill or Waterbury for 2 hours.....there really is no choice there.
I know the club is working hard and the volunteer stuff is improving in quality. Still not keeping pace with the impact.

[milestogo]

Guy said he was going to Stowe for his anniversary and didn't know how much time he would get away. Never compared Cady Hill to Perry Hill, that would be silly. They provide entirely different MTB experiences. Do our trails right in town need work? Absolutely. Do we have too many riders for our ability to maintain them? Perhaps. Do some people still enjoy all the Town Loops have to offer? Without a doubt. No one can argue that the trails are not the way the used to be, but there are 10-20 people doing our best, showing up to every trail work day (and putting time in after work before their kids' soccer games), trying to prevent further damage. In the meantime, there's always other unmapped trails that are riding as good as they ever have in the area. Enjoy!

[JerseyDave]

Guy said he was going to Stowe for his anniversary and didn't know how much time he would get away. Never compared Cady Hill to Perry Hill, that would be silly. They provide entirely different MTB experiences. Do our trails right in town need work? Absolutely. Do we have too many riders for our ability to maintain them? Perhaps. Do some people still enjoy all the Town Loops have to offer? Without a doubt. No one can argue that the trails are not the way the used to be, but there are 10-20 people doing our best, showing up to every trail work day (and putting time in after work before their kids' soccer games), trying to prevent further damage. In the meantime, there's always other unmapped trails that are riding as good as they ever have in the area. Enjoy!

OR.....Trapps, Adam's Camp. No one is saying the above is not true. However, call a spade a spade here. The guy is gonna be in the Stowe area for 1 ride. Why send him to ground zero for blown apart, overused bike park?

[milestogo]

OR.....Trapps, Adam's Camp. No one is saying the above is not true. However, call a spade a spade here. The guy is gonna be in the Stowe area for 1 ride. Why send him to ground zero for blown apart, overused bike park?

Agreed. One ride in Stowe? Trapps and Adam's Camp. Ride Adams Camp (kimmer's and hardy's) in both directions, though.

[MaineSkiAddict1]

Jesus...what did I stir up? Perhaps you guys put it best...I should have just said "In town for 1 ride, needs to be local, GO".

I appreciate the advice. Thanks! I grew up in Burlington and go back fairly often but haven't had the opportunity to get to Perry Hill. I have wanted to ride Waterbury but time has always fucked me. Maybe I can convince her to do something for the whole morning...

[milestogo]

Jesus...what did I stir up? Perhaps you guys put it best...I should have just said "In town for 1 ride, needs to be local, GO"

Ha! You didn't stir anything up. Its all part of the growing pains of MTB in the area, and all perspectives on that process are important. I hope you have a great time and happy anniversary!

[BushwackerinPA]

Honestly I think Trapps, and adams camp have no flow.

I really could careless how wide a trail is as long as it flows. the original line is still there if you want to ride it but the guides stones have been forcing people off the main line and are causing the widening. There is more flow in the town loops than Trapps, or adam's camp. Kimmer's and Pipeline are bullshit trails that have literally 100s of rocks places beside the trail to make every turn radius awkward. and hardy's is kind of is boring as a downhill. The best on the map stuff in Sterling Valley by far.

Seriosuly town loops are fun to ride, unless you sit there and get angry at people cutting turns.

BTW IF I had 2 hours and wanted the best riding experience with in 30 mins of Stowe I would go ride Mud City Rapids/Slab City to Tom 'G, or find a local and go do laps at Cady Falls. Way more flow than anything in Stowe.