Driving in wet snow - What tires works best?

[Stonepa]

two or four?

4. Always 4.

[2FUNKY]

Why in the fuck are people still talking tires in this thread. OP, move this shit to tech talk u fucking fuck. Man this place is going the way of alpine zone.

[stuckathuntermtn]

I typically use the round kind of tire, but some people like square. YMMV

[Stonepa]

Terrible advice all around. I take it you are driving a 4x4 truck/SUV of some kind if you ran BFG AT/Ko's. It will look ridiculous running snow tires on truck not to mention the hassle of switiching them out. Purchase the Goodyear Duratrac, they are agressive AT/MT hybrid, come in real truck sizes, they have the snowflake rating symbol on the tire so they are rated for snow, which most AT's are not and they are a beast in mud and dry terrain. I run them on my super crew f150, they are 34" tall and about 11.5" wide and have no problem in snow and mud. They are great all around AT/MT hybrid tire for trucks. I am presuming you have a full size truck and not an outback, in that case the duratracs will look ridiculous
Edit-you can also pin them for studs. Plus they are quiet as a year round tire

Huh? I run BFG MT on my discovery and BFG AT on my Land Cruiser. Both tires suck if there is any ice whatsoever. The rubber compound doesn't grip when it's cold, even on dry pavement. They do okay in deep snow but not on normal roads like we drive to go skiing.

Blizzaks all the way in the winter. And yes, they do make them in truck sizes.

[snoqpass]

Around here the snow can be like white mud, I've had good luck with these
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[LiveLarger]

All season tires are as good as the one-ski-quiver myth.

I run Nokian Hakka 7 (studded tire) on a five series bimmer. I regularly pass SUV's and trucks up on the mountain. Good tires makes a huge difference.

[XXX-er]

What I meant was, if you drive a full size truck, which I was presuming the OP was, it nearly impossible to find large truck tires made in dedicated snow tires. Therefore a good AT tire with the snow symbol and studdable would work best. I pointed out that if he had something like an outback, then a dedicated snow tire would be best. Have you ever purchased a 33-35" tire in 18-20" rim size that came from blizzak or some other dedicated snow tire. I havenit

I got 10ply Haks which come pre-studded from the factory which work awesume

Around here the guys with the big tire/ lifted/ chipped/ monster diesel trucks run standard sized studded snows on stock steel wheels for winter

[volklpowdermaniac]

What I meant was, if you drive a full size truck, which I was presuming the OP was, it nearly impossible to find large truck tires made in dedicated snow tires. Therefore a good AT tire with the snow symbol and studdable would work best. I pointed out that if he had something like an outback, then a dedicated snow tire would be best. Have you ever purchased a 33-35" tire in 18-20" rim size that came from blizzak or some other dedicated snow tire. I haven't. The duratrac is real 1/2 ton truck tire in big sizes that is not attrocious like the goodrich AT/KO which I think is one of the worst tires ever in rain and snow. Now if you want to drive a big truck with rubber bands on the wheels have at it

NCSKIER has it. both posts, IFF (that's if and only iff) you have a truck, a jeep, a pickup, where large tires are needed and snows are not an option, then Duratrac. i just replaced some 50k KM M/Ts on my 10 wrangler, and the duratracs are amazing, they might give up a little bit of bite in super deep snow, like breaking out of the driveway or the barely plowed backroad, but they are awesome on the snowpack around the mountain towns, even in 2wd, they are great, excited to see how they do on trail, i can only assume the OP has the type of truck NC was referring to just by reading his current and past tires.... if your driving a subie or small suv-crossover, get some snows.

[ill-advised strategy]

You can get a winterforce in 285/75/16....which is a 33" tire. To echo glademaster's sentiment earlier in the thread, that seems like more than enough for winter.

[iamchappy]

The General Altimax Arctic are what i would install if i really needed to get around, i have the Blizzack Dm-V1's on my Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Generals on my Lexus LS 400 and wifes SC 400 both rear wheel drive cars that wont move in the slightest ground cover, with the Generals they dont have any problems getting around at all, you should see the steep long hill i have to drive up to leave the house.
I would get the Generals for my Jeep when it comes time to replace them, the Blizzacks are less noisy an may be a bit better on ice but not as good as the Generals in the snow.

[frorider]

Appreciate everyone's feedback, just went to a local tire guy in town and was recommended the following:

Firestone Winter Force Tires (for extra bang stud em)
General Grabber AT Tires

Thinking I am going to go with an actual snow tire the Firestone route and stud them for an extra $20. My tires have plenty of life and do well in the mud, dirt and on the highway.

Also gonna throw some sand bags in the back of the old rig and see if that helps.

The General Grabber ATs rock on snow and ice. I did a shitload of research on 4wd truck forums before getting a set for my Toyota. Much better on ice/packed snow than bfg at ko's. One of the rare AT truck tires with snowflake symbol. Only downside is the slightly softer rubber wears a little faster, so if you have a 7,000 lb pig these might not be best.

[snapt]

The General Altimax Arctic are what i would install if i really needed to get around, i have the Blizzack Dm-V1's on my Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Generals on my Lexus LS 400 and wifes SC 400 both rear wheel drive cars that wont move in the slightest ground cover, with the Generals they dont have any problems getting around at all, you should see the steep long hill i have to drive up to leave the house.
I would get the Generals for my Jeep when it comes time to replace them, the Blizzacks are less noisy an may be a bit better on ice but not as good as the Generals in the snow.

Way cheaper than Blizzacks, winterforce etc. Great bang for your buck.

[victoreriksson]

Michelin X-ice, as long as you got em back over the pond. You can close the thread now.
P.S don't save in on tires. A little more money is cheap for a life.

[old goat]

Why in the fuck are people still talking tires in this thread. OP, move this shit to tech talk u fucking fuck. Man this place is going the way of alpine zone.

Because the thread is about driving, not tires? And driving is kinda like skiing (a lot of people going too fast, a lot of people going too slow and only me going the right speed)? And . . . aw fuck, just move the thread already. Or better yet, delete it.

[XXX-er]

whatever snow tire you want to buy is probably be > allseason or summers but DO buy snow tires is the takeaway

[media310]

went with the Blizzak's...

Drove home without being in 4wd, got onto the ranch and the truck is handling incredible. Driveways sheet ice and it came to a stop nicely. Tested some start and goes all without being in 4wd and am just amazed at how much a $700 investment can change my ride. Cheers I won't ever drive in the snow without these bad boys. Only took 15 seasons to figure it out...

[Peruvian]

$700 pays for itself vs your collision deductible and rate increases if/when you slide and crash.

Blizzacks are a great choice.

[Tye 1on]

only downside is May, after you put the All-Seasons back on, and hit snow on a trip over the pass. I'm always freakin gripped, like i'm on slicks or something...

[jamal]

I use high performance summers. It's amazing how useless they make a Subaru in the snow- I barely made it half a block up the street the time I got caught in snow before switching over.

[frorider]

[iamchappy]

Thats how my porsche gets around on the dot r tires when its 0 on dry pavement.

[gramboh]

Another vote for General Altimax. Great for mix of rain/wet snow/snow that we get from Vancouver up the Sea to Sky. On my 4th season now with good amount of tread depth left.

[gregL]

This thread is just like most of the ski threads - a bunch of people recommending whatever they happen to be riding on. At least they have demo days for skis.

How many have actually tried multiple snow specific tires on the same vehicle in wet snow?

I've been impressed with the grip of Blizzaks, X-Ices, and three generations of Nokians, but I still don't claim to know how they'd actually stack up against each other. Oh, and whatever snow tire you get, get it an inch or so narrower than your dry weather tire.

[Viva]

If you don't have anything good to say or anything to contribute why are you running your mouth? Oh wait it's TGR and you will looks cool calling someone a Jong and add in a smiley face. Instead of hmmm...

Without reading another post in this thread, I see that you're a fucking cunt and deserve to die in a fire. Hopefully your new tires are sketch and you launch off a fucking cliff.

[Muggydude]

I think you made a good choice with blizzaks. I went with them on my f150 screw- 255/70/18. $150 each. 3 100 lb rubber horse stall matts in the bed plus a cover and skis for weight. After 10 some trips up i70 this year is various conditions, plus driving around town I think they are fantastic. Amazing traction in packed snow, loose snow, ice, and slush. Only limit I've found is other stupid drivers driving slow in the left lane.

I can only compare to the rest of 4wd suvs/sedans I've driven with all seasons, and the wrangler a/T tires I had on the truck before this. No comparison, blizzaks on this truck blow eve4ything else out of the water. Best auto purchase I've made in a long time.