Police Behaving Badly

[2FUNKY]

^^cop chick must be riding the cotton pony.

[Stonepa]

Why not sue the cop personally?

[iceman]

Why not sue the cop personally?

Very difficult to do, they have immunity unless there's willful misonduct and proving that is hard.

http://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil...il-rights.html

[old goat]

Why not sue the cop personally?

Because the city will still pay for his defense and any judgement. And if they didn't the cops will stop enforcing like they did in NYC.
I wonder how much juries and grand juries who let these guys off are influenced by cop shows on TV where the cops are always being abused and falsely accused by internal affairs and their superiors. Has anyone ever seen a cop show where a cop is disciplined for abusing a citizen? There are bad cops on TV--corrupt and worse--but it's always a fellow hero cop who brings them down, never management. (The closest I've seen to a cop show in which the cops weren't heroes was Southland--too bad that one killed off the best (very flawed) character and went off the air.)

Here's an article about police shootings in Albuquerque: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...2/son-deceased

[DasBlunt]

Albuq is such a shit hole.

[Mazderati]

Surely insurance is not the answer.

[guroo270]

Some sort of financial-incentive-driven peer pressure is needed. Currently when a shitty cop takes actions that create a slam dunk settlement for the citizen involved, there's no real direct blowback. If settlements exceeded $ X per year per capita, a portion of the amount in excess should be garnished collectively from all cops on the force. This would create a great incentive for fellow cops to beat the living shit out of a cop who tends to use excessive force or show poor firearm judgment.

The politician brave enough to introduce this legislation could position it as improving the quality of policing. No Cop Left Behind.

I like this. I've known places where if you break the merchandise they take equal amounts out of every sales persons' paycheck A) so it doesn't make it so one employee has such a deduction that he can't make rent, and 2) tends to make everyone accountable, and slightly begrudging to work with affected co-workers for the next few days. I dig it. Really makes you want to not fuck up.

[iceman]

How about if they break the law we prosecute them and put them in jail if they're found guilty?

[legallyillegal]

I like this. I've known places where if you break the merchandise they take equal amounts out of every sales persons' paycheck A) so it doesn't make it so one employee has such a deduction that he can't make rent, and 2) tends to make everyone accountable, and slightly begrudging to work with affected co-workers for the next few days. I dig it. Really makes you want to not fuck up.

and likely very illegal

but hey, communism works as long as you don't call it communism

[frorider]

How about if they break the law we prosecute them and put them in jail if they're found guilty?

Because currently prosecutors don't have much incentive to get the grand jury to indict a cop?

[frorider]

http://gawker.com/video-cop-pulls-gu...brendanoconnor

Snowball fights are serious business

[Mazderati]

[Dantheman]

http://gawker.com/video-cop-pulls-gu...brendanoconnor

Snowball fights are serious business

This was in the comments for that link. Black guy picks up air rifle in the sporting goods section of a WalMart and walks around the store. Cops show up ten minutes later and gun him down on-sight.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult..._shooting.html

[Bromontana]

Because the city will still pay for his defense and any judgement. And if they didn't the cops will stop enforcing like they did in NYC.
I wonder how much juries and grand juries who let these guys off are influenced by cop shows on TV where the cops are always being abused and falsely accused by internal affairs and their superiors. Has anyone ever seen a cop show where a cop is disciplined for abusing a citizen? There are bad cops on TV--corrupt and worse--but it's always a fellow hero cop who brings them down, never management. (The closest I've seen to a cop show in which the cops weren't heroes was Southland--too bad that one killed off the best (very flawed) character and went off the air.)

Here's an article about police shootings in Albuquerque: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...2/son-deceased

This New Yorker article is worth reading for insight into attempts by APD to intimidate the DA. She even said at the presser "I won't be intimidated" for putting murder charges against cops up for review by judge.

[TomCrac]

"Detroit Cop Who Killed 7-Year-Old Aiyana Stanley-Jones Walks Free"


"Detroit police office Joseph Weekley, 38, shot and killed the sleeping 7-year-old with an MP5 submachine gun as he led a SWAT-like team into her home in search of a murder suspect."

"At trial, Weekley claimed he didn’t know his gun had fired or had hit Aiyana in the head as she slept beneath a “Hanna Montana” blanket on the couch with her grandmother. He also testified that Aiyana’s grandmother, Mertilla Jones, grabbed for his gun, causing him to pull the trigger."

http://newsone.com/3086905/aiyana-stanley-jones-news/

[TomCrac]

"Police Seek DHS Grant to Deal With “Extremist” Hippy Group Which Stresses ‘Non-violence, Peace and Love’"

http://wearechange.org/police-seek-d...ce-peace-love/

"Missoula police are seeking a quarter of a million dollar Homeland Security grant to help them spy on “extremist” organization The Rainbow Family, a loosely affiliated hippy group which stresses non-violence, peace and love.

The mayor signed off this week on a proposal that if approved would net the Missoula Police Department $254,930 from the DHS to purchase a mobile command unit that would be used to spy on The Rainbow Family, which is listed as an “extremist” organization in the proposal. The unit will also be used by other first responders during emergencies and natural disasters.

The mobile command units, offered to police departments by the DHS after 9/11, are designed to deal with hostage situations, active shooter calls and mass-casualty incidents.

The Rainbow Family “describes itself as a nonviolent group spreading the message of peace and love.” The group has only met twice in Montana in the last fifteen years, once in 2000 and once in 2013. The extent of the “threat” posed by the group is that one of its gatherings was described by the U.S. Forest Service as “rowdy”.

Former Marine Corps Colonel Peter Martino, who was stationed in Fallujah and trained Iraqi soldiers, responded to the proposal by warning that the Department of Homeland Security is working with law enforcement to build a “domestic army,” because the federal government is afraid of its own citizens."

[Bromontana]

Wanna be military-type cops are more dangerous to the U.S. than ISIS. Mind bottling, but I believe that's true. Smh

[splat]

The Rainbow Family “describes itself as a nonviolent group spreading the message of peace and love.” The group has only met twice in Montana in the last fifteen years, once in 2000 and once in 2013. The extent of the “threat” posed by the group is that one of its gatherings was described by the U.S. Forest Service as “rowdy”.

Former Marine Corps Colonel Peter Martino, who was stationed in Fallujah and trained Iraqi soldiers, responded to the proposal by warning that the Department of Homeland Security is working with law enforcement to build a “domestic army,” because the federal government is afraid of its own citizens."

Wanna be military-type cops are more dangerous to the U.S. than ISIS. Mind bottling, but I believe that's true. Smh

This is like sending the Marines to attack the Amish.
They're a group, so they must be infiltrated and forced to comply.
The outcries are here and there but what is actually going to need to be done to end the madness?

[TomCrac]

It starts with not giving out all your personal info. just to buy a lift ticket

[wolfelot]

So dumb. This is concerning.

[PaSucks]

Mind bottling

Really? REALLY?

[iceman]

A mind is a terrible thing to taste.

[splat]

Mind bottling

Really? REALLY?

A mind is a terrible thing to taste.

It's like the old new Coke. But chunky.

[doughboyshredder]

This was in the comments for that link. Black guy picks up air rifle in the sporting goods section of a WalMart and walks around the store. Cops show up ten minutes later and gun him down on-sight.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult..._shooting.html

It's kind of shocking to me that you didn't know about this a long time ago.

I guess it shouldn't. The only reason they get away with indiscriminately murdering people is because of societies general apathy.

[wooley12]

A lot of answer here. A good listen. I learned a few things from both sides and how to change things. Get the cops out of cars for one.


http://shar.es/1ol9Tw